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Couch-Potato 01-29-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11299513)
Well considered post, kccrow, as always.

I think there are about 5 guards that you could draft in this draft and they'd start in 2015 and be very good. I don't think we need to go there until the 3rd, or possibly the 2nd if a Pro Bowl caliber talent like Josue Matias is still there.

I think tackle is very realistic, and probable, in the 1st. There's tons of excellent tackles and only so many WRs.

I also agree with these statements completely.

Couch-Potato 01-29-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11299515)
By the way, as bad as the OL was, it was not historically terrible like the WR position was.

Albert Wilson was the #2 WR on our team in yardage last year, and he basically only played four weeks.

This is a fair point, but I feel like there is so much talent in FA and in the draft at WR that the relative lack of options at OL makes our needs there a priority. Ultimately I think its the right decision to grab a tackle in the first.

kccrow 01-29-2015 09:54 PM

Here's a look at what I was trying to project as a mock for a Reid coached team tonight... It kind of blends what you guys are looking at...

1. WR Phillip Dorsett - Miami
DeSean Jackson type of player that would flourish in Reid's quick hit offense. He's uncoverable off the line.

2. OG Josue Matias - Florida State
Really good looking guard that reminds me of Evan Mathis. Tackle type traits but not quite athletic enough for the outside.

3. OT Donovan Smith - Penn State
Not athletic enough for the left side, but looks like he could be physically imposing at RT while still athletic enough in a zone blocking scheme, in a similar mould to Todd Herremans.

3. ILB Ramik Wilson - Georgia
Athletic linebacker with alot of the same qualities coming out as Derrick Johnson. If Johnson is healthy, Wilson can learn for a year or two how to play the MIKE position from one of the games now better players.

4. WR Stefon Diggs - Maryland
Athletic and another quick and fast receiver in a similar mould to Jeremy Maclin.

5. S Adrian Amos - Penn State
A very solid all-around safety in very much the same mould as Husain Abdullah, and would have a chance to learn from him.

5. ILB Taiwan Jones - Michigan State
This is more of a "me" pick to help address that 2-down thumper role the Chiefs lacked.

5. OG Mark Glowinski - West Virginia
Longer, athletic guard that Reid seems to prefer

6. CB Cam Thomas - Western Kentucky
Longer corner with some press ability that Sutton seems to like

7. OLB Brock Hekking - Nevada
History with Nevada players? I dunno, I like the kid. He's a try hard and Reid likes EDGE defenders

7. WR Chase Cochran - Ohio
A long, lanky receiver with speed and quickness. Kind of a sleeper guy that I think fits Reid.

Couch-Potato 01-29-2015 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 11299687)
Here's a look at what I was trying to project as a mock for a Reid coached team tonight... It kind of blends what you guys are looking at...

1. WR Phillip Dorsett - Miami
DeSean Jackson type of player that would flourish in Reid's quick hit offense. He's uncoverable off the line.

2. OG Josue Matias - Florida State
Really good looking guard that reminds me of Evan Mathis. Tackle type traits but not quite athletic enough for the outside.

3. OT Donovan Smith - Penn State
Not athletic enough for the left side, but looks like he could be physically imposing at RT while still athletic enough in a zone blocking scheme, in a similar mould to Todd Herremans.

3. ILB Ramik Wilson - Georgia
Athletic linebacker with alot of the same qualities coming out as Derrick Johnson. If Johnson is healthy, Wilson can learn for a year or two how to play the MIKE position from one of the games now better players.

4. WR Stefon Diggs - Maryland
Athletic and another quick and fast receiver in a similar mould to Jeremy Maclin.

5. S Adrian Amos - Penn State
A very solid all-around safety in very much the same mould as Husain Abdullah, and would have a chance to learn from him.

5. ILB Taiwan Jones - Michigan State
This is more of a "me" pick to help address that 2-down thumper role the Chiefs lacked.

5. OG Mark Glowinski - West Virginia
Longer, athletic guard that Reid seems to prefer

6. CB Cam Thomas - Western Kentucky
Longer corner with some press ability that Sutton seems to like

7. OLB Brock Hekking - Nevada
History with Nevada players? I dunno, I like the kid. He's a try hard and Reid likes EDGE defenders

7. WR Chase Cochran - Ohio
A long, lanky receiver with speed and quickness. Kind of a sleeper guy that I think fits Reid.

I like where your heads at, and I do really like Dorsett and Matius. I agree that Dorsett could rise on draft boards across the league along with Lockett, but others don't seem to be as high on Matius as you and I are and there's a lot of receivers in this draft so I'm wondering if we couldn't go...

1) Flowers OT
2) Dorsett WR
3) Matius OG

Couch-Potato 01-29-2015 10:50 PM

Ultimately, I think that if we go OL in the first there will be plenty of options at WR in the 2nd. Here's a list of potential 2nd round WRs, several of these guys should be available when we pick:

DGB
Dorsett
Coates
Greene
Montgomery
Hardy
Lockett

Direckshun 01-29-2015 11:16 PM

I actually think Donovan Smith has LT upside. But yeah, probably a RT.

DGB's a top ten pick, by the way. Not a second rounder. He's going to erupt at the Combine, and teams don't give a shit about his character.

Couch-Potato 01-29-2015 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11299788)
DGB's a top ten pick, by the way. Not a second rounder. He's going to erupt at the Combine, and teams don't give a shit about his character.

I agree that he's a top 10 talent, but part of me feels like if there was ever a year in which teams would pass on someone with "domestic abuse" being floated around with his draft card this is the year. I remember how far the honey badger fell for weed alone and I certainly don't remember him pushing chix down stairways.

...not that I agree, but I think its possible he falls to the 2nd due to the negative stigma.

Direckshun 01-29-2015 11:46 PM

It's not possible.

Any year where Jameis Winston goes #1 overall is not the same year DGB falls to the 2nd round.

Couch-Potato 01-30-2015 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11299828)
It's not possible.

Any year where Jameis Winston goes #1 overall is not the same year DGB falls to the 2nd round.


Truth. Buuut I could imagine a scenario where Winston falls out of the top 10.

Direckshun 01-30-2015 12:34 AM

If Winston isn't a Top Two selection, I will drive to SNR's house dressed in an elegant summer dress, and sing "She Taught Me To Yodel" while teabagging a shoebox.

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Couch-Potato 01-30-2015 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11299858)
If Winston isn't a Top Two selection, I will drive to SNR's house dressed in an elegant summer dress, and sing "She Taught Me To Yodel" while teabagging a shoebox.

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Haha We'll hold ya to it!

But I agree. In my opinion Winston should go #1 and DGB should go mid-first.

redshirt32 02-08-2015 06:52 AM

1. Flowers or Cann
2. WR Justin Hardy
3. CB Jacoby Glen
3. ILB Zach Vigil
4. S Durell Eskridge
5. OT Eric LeFeld
5. DT Xavier Williams
5. ILB David Mayo
6. WR Austin Hill
7. OG Jarvis Harrison
7. WR Tre McBride

Because Chiefs


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