It's going to be sad when the shell of Manning comes back and still wins the AFCW.

I mean, we can all talk shit because he's obviously on a hard downward slide and has always been a playoff enigma; but does anyone think that even with old balls Manning the Broncos aren't the clear favorite?

I agree... Not sure anyone in the AFCW could beat them...

Pisses me off, but it is what it is...

Raiders will be tougher
Who knows with San Diego
I'd expect the Chiefs to be about the same because Alex gonna Alex.

Yeah, It will be even more disgusting when we find a way to piss away our games against a geriatric Manning.

The whole pray for injury route hasn't worked for us so far either.

Pretty much.

We're handcuffed. I guess we can hope our already very good defense takes a step towards elite status and we grind out more wins...

Bob Sutton is one of the best.

They sure did. They also circumvented the salary cap, for which they were fined a pick and some money. I am sure any team would pay what they did to win a SB.

Broncos have a good amount of room under the cap, they'll commit to about $13M with whatever happens to DT and then a few other key FAs retained. Manning will give them a bit more room and they'll make some other signings.

Nobody should be shocked really that he's coming back or taking less, that was always going to happen. Well, taking less in regards to the cap, he'll still take home the same if not more (see Brady's restructuring for example).

NO THEY DIDNT you MORON! :rolleyes: If you talk to ANY Donx fan (Especially our very own resident MULE TOOL), they'll argue that what they did TWICE gave them NO advantage...Well then WHY do it??? :shrug: Funny thing was that AL DAVIS called them on it and was RIGHT! :doh!:

But I agree that the trade off was heavily skewed in the Donx favor FOR cheating.

The record books should say the following:
*Manipulated the salary cap during their Super Bowl seasons...

Of course. But Denver doesn't have to oblige him.

Yet we cant win a playoff game being the Choir boys of the AFC....

I will take cheating and abusing the cap and winning vs our so called self righteousness perianal losing...

I just hope we win a playoff game before we all die....

Elway is the most dishonorable American since Benedict Arnold. If Elway is involved, you know there's cheating going on.

No need to cry....The fivehead experiment has yielded how many rings despite getting favor from the league all year? How did you enjoy watching Fivehead's replacement in Indy come into your house and pimp slap you?

No doubt. He knows his ass should not play anymore.