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ThaVirus 06-10-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11542788)
No way in hell should Fleming be starting. The dude is a JAG. This year's Marcus Cooper. If he starts over Gaines and Peters, we got a problem, man.


He seemed to do rather well last season, no?

BigMeatballDave 06-10-2015 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11542756)
We're going to be ****ed if Sean Smith misses any games

No way, man. SS missing time would be a plus. He's overrated. I know this because Clay and ROR said so...

BigMeatballDave 06-10-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11542583)
Branch will break apart in midair before midseason. I really don't give a shit about his signing this offseason since he'll never be on the field anyway.

Parker and Abdullah will start for most of the season I imagine.

Heh, I completely forgot about Branch.

Aspengc8 06-10-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 11542570)
Also, bonus Q: Do you think we will see Houston, Hali and Ford on the field at the same time more this year? When?

Nope. No reason to have 3 edge rushers on the field at the same time. Ford will spell either one of them and keep them fresh.

BossChief 06-10-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11542788)
No way in hell should Fleming be starting. The dude is a JAG. This year's Marcus Cooper. If he starts over Gaines and Peters, we got a problem, man.

He isn't just a guy.

He's a solid corner in a league where it's tough to find good coverage corners. He was drafted in the third round of the 2012 draft and was rated as the 7th best corner in the class. When he played, he held his own.

To be honest, I think it would be smart to try and trade him to a team in need of a starting corner and try to get a linebacker for him.

I'd LOVE to see us move him to Philly for Kendrick's. They were desperate enough to give Maxwell a massive deal and I'm sure would love to add Fleming.

Then that would give Bausby and Fox a chance to make the team and contribute while adding a quality starter at a position of need.

staylor26 06-10-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11542785)
There's no reason to believe an unproven NCB and a rookie can fill an elite player's shoes.

Gaines stepped in last year and shutdown Emmanuel Sanders, and he also got stronger/bigger this offseason so not the slightest bit worried about him. Peters is the type of guy that might get beat early on, but he won't lose his confidence and will keep playing aggressively. I'm not worried at all.

ThaVirus 06-10-2015 12:36 PM

There's a good chance we see Houston moved inside with Ford taking up the LOLB spot on some obvious passing situations.

I remember seeing it a few times last season.

staylor26 06-10-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11542830)
There's a good chance we see Houston moved inside with Ford taking up the LOLB spot on some obvious passing situations.

I remember seeing it a few times last season.

Yea with Houston's ability to cover and rush the QB from anywhere that should work quite well.

ToxSocks 06-10-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11542821)
He isn't just a guy.

He's a solid corner in a league where it's tough to find good coverage corners. He was drafted in the third round of the 2012 draft and was rated as the 7th best corner in the class. When he played, he held his own.

To be honest, I think it would be smart to try and trade him to a team in need of a starting corner and try to get a linebacker for him.

I'd LOVE to see us move him to Philly for Kendrick's. They were desperate enough to give Maxwell a massive deal and I'm sure would love to add Fleming.

Then that would give Bausby and Fox a chance to make the team and contribute while adding a quality starter at a position of need.

He is just a guy.

What evidence do you have that he isn't?

You think he has trade value? LMAO

Dude for real? Fleming has trade value as a starting Corner is this league? C'mon man. The homer is strong in you today.

To this point, Fleming has done dick in this league.

That's some epic homer level shit.

ToxSocks 06-10-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11542828)
Gaines stepped in last year and shutdown Emmanuel Sanders, and he also got stronger/bigger this offseason so not the slightest bit worried about him. Peters is the type of guy that might get beat early on, but he won't lose his confidence and will keep playing aggressively. I'm not worried at all.

Gaines has shown more in his rookie season than Fleming has shown in his career.

Fleming's claim to fame is filling in on spot duty for an awful, awful Marcus Cooper....another CP homer favorite.

Mr. Laz 06-10-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11542966)
Gaines has shown more in his rookie season than Fleming has shown in his career.

Fleming's claim to fame is filling in on spot duty for an awful, awful Marcus Cooper....another CP homer favorite.

Cooper lost his CP homer status his 2nd year.

Gaines certainly showed improvement last season.


Hopefully we can leave Gaines in the slot.

BossChief 06-10-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11542964)
He is just a guy.

What evidence do you have that he isn't?

You think he has trade value? LMAO

Dude for real? Fleming has trade value as a starting Corner is this league? C'mon man. The homer is strong in you today.

To this point, Fleming has done dick in this league.

That's some epic homer level shit.

If Byron Maxwell has 10+m per type talent, Fleming is worth a player for player trade for a guy like Kendrick's, who Philly doesn't even need after resigning their ILB and trading for Kiko.

ToxSocks 06-10-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11542968)
Cooper lost his CP homer status his 2nd year.

Gaines certainly showed improvement last season.


Hopefully we can leave Gaines in the slot.

Cooper didn't lose Homer status until he got benched for Practice squad all-star Fleming.

ToxSocks 06-10-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11542980)
If Byron Maxwell has 10+m per type talent, Fleming is worth a player for player trade for a guy like Kendrick's, who Philly doesn't even need after resigning their ILB and trading for Kiko.

Really? A guy on his 4th team in 3 seasons, whom the Chiefs plucked off teh Ravens practice squad before the start of the season, is worth a proven commodity like Kendricks?

That's insane. Absolutely Insane. Byron Maxwell has actually been a starter in this league. Flemming had some spot duty here and there last season replacing an awful Cooper and now all of a sudden he's better or as good as Byron Maxwell?

Sheeesh.

staylor26 06-10-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11542966)
Gaines has shown more in his rookie season than Fleming has shown in his career.

Fleming's claim to fame is filling in on spot duty for an awful, awful Marcus Cooper....another CP homer favorite.

I specifically remember you laughing at me last offseason for hyping up Gaines and saying I had him in my top 5 cb's in last years draft. Glad to see you've come along :D


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