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saphojunkie 01-14-2018 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13360085)
Personally, I think the 10 catches on 10 targets for 147 yards in week 17 say more about what Mahomes' value to the team is going forward vs all of his other stats for the year combined do.
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DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 12:27 PM
I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.

TLO 01-14-2018 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360225)
I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.
This is a solid assessment

KChiefs1 01-14-2018 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360225)
I gave him a B- or 80%.

Instead of dropping every important pass in 2017 (as he did the previous three years), he only dropped a few of them. Once Conley was out for the season, Wilson stepped up, until he was injured, which in part led to their 1-6 tear.

With a healthy Kelce, Conley, Hill and Hunt, Wilson's still most likely the 4th target at best, so I'd give him a 3 year, $10 million dollar deal with $3.5 million guaranteed, which is basically a 1 year, $3.5 million dollar deal.

There's no way I'd approach $5 million or more on a contract for Wilson, as he's shown to be fragile in the past.

Plus, 2017 was a contract year for him so it all could be an illusion.


Agreed

carcosa 01-14-2018 02:26 PM
He's a good 3/4 guy. Would love to either pick up a strong WR2 to complement Hill... but with Mahomes maybe that will be Robinson. But regardless, Wilson is an ideal WR depth guy when he's healthy. Good for a few drive extending plays per game & takes pressure off the stars.

DRM08 01-14-2018 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13360085)
Personally, I think the 10 catches on 10 targets for 147 yards in week 17 say more about what Wilson's value to the team is going forward vs all of his other stats for the year combined do.
They need to keep him around. He has legit chemistry with Mahomes, which could be very important in 2018 for the young QB.

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13360917)
He's a good 3/4 guy. Would love to either pick up a strong WR2 to complement Hill... but with Mahomes maybe that will be Robinson. But regardless, Wilson is an ideal WR depth guy when he's healthy. Good for a few drive extending plays per game & takes pressure off the stars.
Conley smokes Robinson

carcosa 01-14-2018 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13360923)
They need to keep him around. He has legit chemistry with Mahomes, which could be very important in 2018 for the young QB.
Under Mahomes, Hill/Conley/Robinson/Wilson could become one of the best WR units in the NFL

carcosa 01-14-2018 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360946)
Conley smokes Robinson
I like Conley but Robinson seems more talented..,

hitchief 01-14-2018 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13360138)
Elevated his status from a C player to a B.

Probably can't afford him going forward but I think he'd be worth it.
Cant afford to keep him is correct but then again he's an Andy butt kisser so theres that.

He will always drop/short arm the ball if there is any doubt of imminent contact is concerned. He will always protect himself over making a play no matter the situation, just like on the last play of the playoff game.

He will disappoint you in the coming year/s now that its Pat's team and not all Alex's fault. Be very aware!

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13360956)
I like Conley but Robinson seems more talented..,
He’s less dependable, rounds off his routes and has issues catching the ball.

He’s also smaller than Conley.

Direckshun 01-14-2018 02:39 PM
You can’t let a guy walk who has insane chemistry with your QBotF.

We’ve got a defense to build. Let’s bring Wilson back and focus 100% on the D.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13361021)
You can’t let a guy walk who has insane chemistry with your QBotF.

We’ve got a defense to build. Let’s bring Wilson back and focus 100% on the D.
What if a team offers him $5-6 million a year?

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13361029)
What if a team offers him $5-6 million a year?
That’s not gonna happen.

Wilson isn’t a 800-1,000 yard receiver waiting to happen.

He’s a smallish 4th or 5th option on a good team and a 3rd or 4th option on a bad team.

He isn’t suddenly going to become Emmanuel Sanders or Muhammad Sanu.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13361069)
That’s not gonna happen.

Wilson isn’t a 800-1,000 yard receiver waiting to happen.

He’s a smallish 4th or 5th option on a good team and a 3rd or 4th option on a bad team.

He isn’t suddenly going to become Emmanuel Sanders or Muhammad Sanu.
My point was some of what decides whether he comes back is what he gets offered.


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