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DRM08 01-15-2018 12:41 PM

He made some pretty interesting points about Coughlin versus Belichick. If Coughlin beats the Patriots with Bortles, maybe Coughlin will get the respect he deserves.

rico 01-15-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 13363666)
So dropped passes is part of being on script? Ok, he fails to mention that. Jones and Wilson make those catches and Falcons and Chiefs win.

Amazing how the same receivers who drop Alex-thrown passes were making solid catches when Mahomes was throwing it to them. Has it ever occurred to you dumbasses that Alex Smith's balls may just be, for whatever reason, more difficult to catch?

Alex Smith throws whiffle balls/shot putts. Mahomes throws baseballs. Baseballs are much easier to catch than whiffle balls and shot putts.

Bewbies 01-15-2018 12:45 PM

Anyone think Alex Smith is better in the 2nd half than he is in the 1st?

chiefforlife 01-15-2018 12:45 PM

I think he is spot on. We dont know if Mahomes has "IT" but we think so. We know Alex does NOT.
No offense to Alex he gives everything he has to his team.

RunKC 01-15-2018 12:45 PM

A lot of it is coaching. Vikings needed a fluke to win their game yesterday. Shannahan wouldn’t run the ball. Seahawks wouldn’t give it to Marshawn at the 1.

It blows my mind how stupid a lot of HC’s are.

Rausch 01-15-2018 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13363681)
The problem has always been a pack of fans that look to a flawless QB savior... instead of looking at the areas of the team that are not doing their job.

Play calling?
Situational in-game decision making?
At least one drop per WR in every important game?
Forgetting the league's rushing champ in a game he's got respectable 1st half numbers?
Not blitzing a young QB more on the road?


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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13363681)
run support... no? **** the QB!True.
defensive stops? no? **** the QB! We had 3 turnovers.
injured high-priced players not on the field to do the job expected? no? **** the QB! You can't predict/prevent injury.
dropped passes that would have led to conversions.. and likely points? no? **** the QB!We do this every game, not just playoff games.

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Rausch 01-15-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13363693)
A lot of it is coaching.

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JENKINSWINS 01-15-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 13363689)
Amazing how the same receivers who drop Alex-thrown passes were making solid catches when Mahomes was throwing it to them. Has it ever occurred to you dumbasses that Alex Smith's balls may just be, for whatever reason, more difficult to catch?

Alex Smith throws whiffle balls/shot putts. Mahomes throws baseballs. Baseballs are much easier to catch than whiffle balls and shot putts.

Robinson had a good game with Mahomes in the preseason and a bad one with him against Denver. Alex had bad chemistry with him but in the playoffs he went to him in the 2 minute drill and scored a TD. What’s your point?

pugsnotdrugs19 01-15-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13363693)
A lot of it is coaching. Vikings needed a fluke to win their game yesterday. Shannahan wouldn’t run the ball. Seahawks wouldn’t give it to Marshawn at the 1.

It blows my mind how stupid a lot of HC’s are.

Isn't it amazing/ridiculous though how many coaches get passes because they've won a SB?

Sean Payton was really bad overall yesterday. Tomlin clearly had his struggles. These guys have had HOF QBs and/or great defenses so many times, but it seems like their mistakes are swept under the rug so easily because of their rings.

Reerun_KC 01-15-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 13363666)
So dropped passes is part of being on script? Ok, he fails to mention that. Jones and Wilson make those catches and Falcons and Chiefs win.

Stay on topic and have a glass. You trolling jackass.

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staylor26 01-15-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13363724)
Isn't it amazing/ridiculous though how many coaches get passes because they've won a SB?

Sean Payton was really bad overall yesterday. Tomlin clearly had his struggles. These guys have had HOF QBs and/or great defenses so many times, but it seems like their mistakes are swept under the rug so easily because of their rings.

EVERY COACH HAS WARTS

I’ve been saying it for years

pugsnotdrugs19 01-15-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13363691)
Anyone think Alex Smith is better in the 2nd half than he is in the 1st?

Never is, never has been. We saw it two straight years in the playoffs more specifically.

He excels with the first 15 that Reid and the offensive staff scheme up, but when it comes time to just make plays in the 2nd half... it just doesn't happen too often.

rico 01-15-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS (Post 13363715)
Robinson had a good game with Mahomes in the preseason and a bad one with him against Denver. Alex had bad chemistry with him but in the playoffs he went to him in the 2 minute drill and scored a TD. What’s your point?

My point is that Mahomes throws a football that is easier for the receivers to catch than Alex.

Rausch 01-15-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13363733)
Never is, never has been. We saw it two straight years in the playoffs more specifically.

He excels with the first 15 that Reid and the offensive staff scheme up, but when it comes time to just make plays in the 2nd half... it just doesn't happen too often.

Reid excels at calling his scripted plays and then the offense slumps.

Reid is also terrible at halftime adjustments. If something isn't working he goes back to his horizontal passing game.

If something is working and he has the lead he abandons it and goes to his horizontal passing game.

There's a crutch of fall back plays he needs to purge from his mind...

RunKC 01-15-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13363732)
EVERY COACH HAS WARTS

I’ve been saying it for years

Doesn’t excuse them from being morons and not using common sense.

I mean FFS the Vikings had the ball at the 40 yesterday with 1:47 left. They burned only 18 seconds off the clock. EIGHTEEN.

You need 5 ****ing yards and the Saints have 1 time out. 35 seconds between plays could have been used 3 times giving the Saints roughly 20 seconds to have to go 40 yards for a FG try.

Christ these coaches are just complete and utter morons.


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