Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Back when I was in we had our meetings at a Mennonite church but they had no say and weren't involved.

Parents contributed and we raised money by selling crap. The Scout master made it his life and was always busting his butt to make it happen.

I hope there is a program available for these young boys going forward.

Also heard that Girl Scouts are suing the Boy Scouts for changing their name to Scouts.

They have never played nicely together in the sand box

Membership has been declining for 50 years.

The big blow was the loss of LDS which was @ 20-25% of membership.

The allowing girls to participate is a bit overblown by the media. The scouts have had programs that allow girls since the late 60's early 70's (venturing programs)

Kids these days would rather call everyone racist names over X-Box live and beat off to a woman sucking a horse's dick then join Boy Scouts.

It's run is over. If the Ringling Bros. circus can die out, so can the Scouts.

Kids nowadays are just not interested. On the baseball team I coached, no kids were in the Boy Scouts. Just a handful were in the Scouts at my sons school.

Massive amounts of money required to fend off constant lawsuits

F this country
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This is only for kids now?

Bad leadership that is vastly overpaid, the LDS (Mormons) doing their own thing, 10X as many things for boys to do now compared to 30 years ago... the girl thing is a poor move, but it’s not killing them. And, I’ll say a lack of quality dad involvement has led to the steady downfall.

This is sad. Survivalism, Patriotism, and Personal Ethics are not high on the list of social priorities at the moment.

In the most concentrated populations, what many consider to be Traditional Culture died long ago. Scouts have been mostly dead in urban areas for a long time. So far as I know, there's no merit badge for gang-banging, cutting meth, facial tattoos, and baby-daddying. Rather than helping an old lady across a street, shanking the bitch offers more immediate gratification.

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That might be a bit over the top :D

If I look at what my boys have the ability to do through school and sports compared to what I did in the 80s, it's totally different. The focus and sadly, where we put some of our focus is off balance.

My oldest has been sitting on his EAGLE project for about a year, he's got 12 months to finish it before he ages out. Between school, football, basketball, work in the summer... girlfriend and just wanting to be a teenager, there's little time for it. He'll get it done though.

I see a LOT of boys going through Cub Scouts and about 1/2 go to Boy Scouts. Moms are predominantly more involved in Cub Scouts and then when it's the big transition, most bail. Unfortunately, the lack of dad involvement weighs big here. I know I have not been as active as I should or could have - we (I) let things get in the way that in the long run, don't matter and I'll regret it later.

It's a mix of things, but the girl involvement... so far, it's been a non-factor.

Maybe a bit ...

EDIT: I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge the fact that I'm glad and impressed that you're involved with your sons Mr. Mile High Mania ... to whatever extent you can be ... even a little time can result in a lot of positive outcomes. IMO, parents should be involved with their kids as much as possible. Grandparents, too. When you boil it all down, that's clearly the most meaningful job parents have.

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Video games

Totally agree... and regarding grandparents. So, we lost my father-in-law last month and of all my kids, it hit my oldest the most. Over the last 3 years, the two of them really bonded over a lot of the MBs (leathering, metal work, etc). And, there are several grandpas that participate with this troop - attend campouts, etc. I'll say that the grandpas are the guys that my son loves hanging out with the most.

And, it's because they actually take the time to teach the boys something and there's just a great bonding that happens between boys 15-18 and grandpas.

I think troops should do more to partner up with local seniors and really share experiences, it's cool.

Yeah. Sad thing, end of an era, and something kids could sorely use today.

As MHM said, lack of quality and present dads are part of the problem and something scouting could help with, but the current culture just devoured the organization.

Sad what Gen X has done here.