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T-post Tom 12-14-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13961047)
Andy has said Veach was the one that put him square on the radar.

Hence, the reason he's GM and Chris Ballard isn't after Dorsey's cap mismanagement.

There you go. True story.

bevischief 12-14-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13961007)
Veach has a free pass because of Mahomes, he'll be here as long as Carl or when he wants to retire.

Nope going to let that happen.

JakeF 12-14-2018 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13961004)
Chiefs **** the refs, Brett Veach, Bob, and Andy too

Forgive me if I'm wrong but weren't you yelling at me for being too negative after the Raiders game?

bevischief 12-14-2018 01:55 AM

Hunt at least great grandpa Sutton needs to go.........

dlphg9 12-14-2018 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13961056)
Forgive me if I'm wrong but weren't you yelling at me for being too negative after the Raiders game?

Probably, but there may be a slight difference between the Raiders game and this one. I just can't seem to remember what it is.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-14-2018 02:02 AM

Don’t forget to add Demetrius Harris

Mav 12-14-2018 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13961050)
Supposedly, although Dorsey is the guy with the QB history.



He did just draft Mayfield who is a stud. I’d have to believe that Dorsey also saw Mahomes as a stud.


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dlphg9 12-14-2018 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13961047)
Andy has said Veach was the one that put him square on the radar.

Hence, the reason he's GM and Chris Ballard isn't after Dorsey's cap mismanagement.

“Brett Veach was responsible for him,” Reid told Cowherd. “John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him. Brett spent a lot of time with this kid and so he hammered me on watching him and watching him and watching him and watching him, and so, I had couple years worth of film that I was able to watch, and I can’t tell you it’s one play but there were a few, these passes where he’d be running right and looking right and then throwing back left but not all the way to that danger zone but in position where you’d just go, ‘Whoa. That’s something.’ He still has a ton of room to grow for us, but those are the things that got me.”

https://www-arrowheadpride-com.cdn.a...atrick-mahomes

Sounds like Dorsey was interested in Mahomes and told Veach to scout. Seems like Mahomes was already on Dorseys radar. It wouldnt take much skill to be directed by your boss to go scout a player. I'm sure if Dorsey came to me and said go down to Texas Tech and watch this Patrick Mahomes kid play and get to know him that i would have told Andy that he should be our guy. Too many people take Reid's word to literally. What would you have expected him to say? "Dorsey was the one who was interested in Mahomes, so he sent Veach to do the scouting, because Dorsey is too busy with a million other things. Veach really was following orders and happened to be the lucky one to get assigned to scout Mahomes and that luck was what got him the GM job"? Reid is always going to prop up his guys and say they were responsible for anything good that happened.

Tribal Warfare 12-14-2018 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13961074)
“Brett Veach was responsible for him,” Reid told Cowherd. “John Dorsey kind of put him in that position to look at him. Brett spent a lot of time with this kid and so he hammered me on watching him and watching him and watching him and watching him, and so, I had couple years worth of film that I was able to watch, and I can’t tell you it’s one play but there were a few, these passes where he’d be running right and looking right and then throwing back left but not all the way to that danger zone but in position where you’d just go, ‘Whoa. That’s something.’ He still has a ton of room to grow for us, but those are the things that got me.”

https://www-arrowheadpride-com.cdn.a...atrick-mahomes

Sounds like Dorsey was interested in Mahomes and told Veach to scout. Seems like Mahomes was already on Dorseys radar. It wouldnt take much skill to be directed by your boss to go scout a player. I'm sure if Dorsey came to me and said go down to Texas Tech and watch this Patrick Mahomes kid play and get to know him that i would have told Andy that he should be our guy. Too many people take Reid's word to literally. What would you have expected him to say? "Dorsey was the one who was interested in Mahomes, so he sent Veach to do the scouting, because Dorsey is too busy with a million other things. Veach really was following orders and happened to be the lucky one to get assigned to scout Mahomes and that luck was what got him the GM job"? Reid is always going to prop up his guys and say they were responsible for anything good that happened.

It was also said that Veach was scouting other players at a Texas Tech game, but Mahomes stood out so much that he was compelled to show Andy what he found.

Veach discovered Patrick before he got the notoriety.

As I said that's reason he has the Chiefs job instead of Ballard.

If you remember Ballard was an hot item for any open GM position.

Mahomes > Peters

dlphg9 12-14-2018 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13961087)
It was also said that Veach was scouting other players at a Texas Tech game, but Mahomes stood out so much that he was compelled to show Andy what he found.

Veach discovered Patrick before he got the notoriety.

As I said that's reason he has the Chiefs job instead of Ballard.

If you remember Ballard was an hot item for any open GM position.

Mahomes > Peters

Ballard was hired by the Colts in January. Dorsey wasn't fired until the end of June. So wtf are you talking about? There is no point even arguing with you, because no matter what the evidence points to and no matter how wrong you are you're going to continue acting like your original point was right.

bevischief 12-14-2018 03:00 AM

Hunt you just pissed off your fan base.

Tribal Warfare 12-14-2018 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13961089)
Ballard was hired by the Colts in January. Dorsey wasn't fired until the end of June. So wtf are you talking about? There is no point even arguing with you, because no matter what the evidence points to and no matter how wrong you are you're going to continue acting like your original point was right.



Yes he was hired before Dorsey was fired. If Dorsey's firing was inevitable, why wouldn't they retain his second in command in Ballard?

The plan was Veach would be GM.


Veach hiring wasn't a spontaneous fallback without forethought. It was already arranged for Brett to fill the job

Yes, I'm correct and you're hating

T-post Tom 12-14-2018 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13961087)
It was also said that Veach was scouting other players at a Texas Tech game, but Mahomes stood out so much that he was compelled to show Andy what he found.

Veach discovered Patrick before he got the notoriety.

As I said that's reason he has the Chiefs job instead of Ballard.

If you remember Ballard was an hot item for any open GM position.

Mahomes > Peters

This seems right as I remember it.

Ken Bone 12-14-2018 03:15 AM

Teams this season trailing by 14 points or more in the final 5 minutes of regulation were 0-88 coming into tonight. Bob Sutton said hold my beer.

It’s time to fly a banner and get rid of that piece of shit. Put me down for a couple hundred on it.

bevischief 12-14-2018 03:16 AM

Clark YOU DON'T GET OFF ON THIS LOSE


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