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pugsnotdrugs19 12-28-2018 08:58 AM

I see now that you’re Damien Williams price is lower than the Chiefs actual payment, but to be honest I always thought that this projection was a little cheap for him.

I think on the open market he may have gotten $5M per year (Dion Lewis last yr), or at least a guaranteed $4M per. Jerrick McKinnon even got $7.5M per year last free agency. So I actually thought the Chiefs got a good deal.

kccrow 12-28-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13990674)
I see now that you’re Damien Williams price is lower than the Chiefs actual payment, but to be honest I always thought that this projection was a little cheap for him.

I think on the open market he may have gotten $5M per year (Dion Lewis last yr), or at least a guaranteed $4M per. Jerrick McKinnon even got $7.5M per year last free agency. So I actually thought the Chiefs got a good deal.

We have no idea yet if my price is actually lower or not. The deal was stated as 2 years max value of 8.1 million. That term "max" tells me the deal is laden with performance incentives. I'm fine with that.

Where I disagree with you is on his market value. He had zero market value when he came here because he had 4 years in the league averaging 3.6 yards per carry. He was lucky the Chiefs gave him a shot as a 3rd down receiving back. The fact that he has an entire 2 games of good production here doesn't mean the league was going to offer him 5 per year. Now, he could produce at that level going forward and I think the Chiefs, given this contract, expect that he has that ability.

I'm guessing the base deal is about 1 million per above my projection. We'll see where it ends up. I'm not elated by the contract and think it's significant risk by the Chiefs IF it's not about 50% performance incentives

pugsnotdrugs19 12-28-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13990735)
We have no idea yet if my price is actually lower or not. The deal was stated as 2 years max value of 8.1 million. That term "max" tells me the deal is laden with performance incentives. I'm fine with that.

Where I disagree with you is on his market value. He had zero market value when he came here because he had 4 years in the league averaging 3.6 yards per carry. He was lucky the Chiefs gave him a shot as a 3rd down receiving back. The fact that he has an entire 2 games of good production here doesn't mean the league was going to offer him 5 per year. Now, he could produce at that level going forward and I think the Chiefs, given this contract, expect that he has that ability.

I'm guessing the base deal is about 1 million per above my projection. We'll see where it ends up. I'm not elated by the contract and think it's significant risk by the Chiefs IF it's not about 50% performance incentives

It could be the case. I don’t really think too much about the Miami days with Williams because this is a guy who has shined ever since coming to KC, even in training camp to a great degree. Miami RBs have all struggled to produce at a high level for awhile now, I don’t know what the deal is. But he fits this offense in KC like a glove. And beyond the stats and on-field impact, I just love his attitude and physicality. He plays with a massive chip on his shoulder.

You’re probably right on the contract. Probably one of those things where if he makes $8.1M, he’ll have damn well earned it and then some.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-28-2018 01:20 PM

Let’s go ahead and pull the June 1 cut on Berry.

Cosmos 12-30-2018 08:58 PM

Like to see Pringle replace Connelly, and K.J. Hill working underneath crossing routes with Kelce is interesting.

Like priority picks used for the DBs.

Hoping to see some help at ILB.


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