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IowaHawkeyeChief 01-14-2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 14038466)
Is Bosa and Ingram couldn't get much pressure, can Houston and Ford?

What will we do differently on the pass rush?

LA was in quick sand from back to back East Coast trips coupled with no noise at Gillette and no interior pressure. Healthy Chiefs coupled with Arrowhead noise and Jones in the middle and it will be a different story.

Gravedigger 01-14-2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 14038466)
Is Bosa and Ingram couldn't get much pressure, can Houston and Ford?

What will we do differently on the pass rush?

Houston and Ford are better than Bosa and Ingram. Everyone listens to how bad Bosa is, how the Chargers pass rush was one of the best ESPECIALLY when Bosa gets back healthy. Turned out to be bullshit, they're middle of the pack.

BWillie 01-14-2019 04:27 PM

Yeah it was a terrible game plan by the Chargers DC. You need to at least be adaptable.

But we play almost a totally different defense than the Chargers. We are Tom Brady's nightmare.

JakeF 01-14-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 14038434)
I'm tempted to say you put Ward on Edleman all ****ing game long. WArd seems to be in the hip pocket of whomever he covers. I could be wrong about that but that's what I see anyway.

I understand why you want that but Edelman is not the kind of guy that would be ideal for Ward to cover. Ward is bigger and physical while Edelmann is smaller and quick.

If Berry doesn't play we probably should put Ward on Gronk. I don't even think that Nelson can cover Edelman, Fuller is our only chance. If Fuller doesn't work we are going to need to double Edelman.

We can't let Edelman destroy us.
We can't let Edelman destroy us.
We can't let Edelman destroy us.
We can't let Edelman destroy us.

KChiefs1 01-14-2019 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14038365)
So, kill Tom Brady?



Yip

OlineDline 01-14-2019 04:38 PM

I always find it hilarious that there is a "recipe" to beat the Pats but no one will use it.

Ridiculous.

Gadzooks 01-14-2019 04:39 PM

The Chargers went with 7 DBs against the Ravens and were lauded as geniuses for it since it countered Balt's speed, however this was done out of necessity rather than a premeditated plan. 3 of their ILBs were on IR so this was their best option as opposed to playing clunky 4th, 5th and 6th string ILBs.
I knew that the Patriots would start by establishing a power running game. Lining up in the "I" and running it down their throats, which they did. This also opened the play action game for Brady. Oh, and the Chargers O-Line forgot how to pass protect.
KC should be fine as long as their secondary holds up.

Gravedigger 01-14-2019 04:39 PM

If there's one team I do trust Bob Sutton to coach against, it's the Patriots. We always play them tough and figure them out.

The last four games of the Bob Sutton era against the Patriots his defense has allowed:

10/14/18 - 43 Points
09/7/17 - 27 Points
01/16/16 - 27 Points
09/29/14 - 14 Points

The last few years we had Marcus Peters, which for all his shortcomings, was a pretty great man to man corner in this system. In the first three years of Bob Suttons defenses we were ranked top 10 in many categories. The last three have been worse and worse, as is evidenced by the point differential.

I would say we didn't have things figured out at the beginning of the season, but I do believe our defense is finally starting to come together at the right point, and for whatever reason Sutton's scheme keeps Tom Brady from looking like Tom Brady. We never had a QB who could fight back under Alex Smith, so Tom would get a lead and just not blow it, daring Alex to lead the offense to come back against a middle of the pack defense. Now that Mahomes is across the field, with our defense that seems to have Brady figured out for the most part, I bet they're scared. Of course you can't tell from Bill Belichick's animated expressions and Tom's diva cockiness, but the fans know and they'll be ready this Sunday. Does all that mean that we'll win? Of course not, either we will or we won't at this point, but it sure as shit means we can.

ToxSocks 01-14-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OlineDline (Post 14038515)
I always find it hilarious that there is a "recipe" to beat the Pats but no one will use it.

Ridiculous.

The recipe is easy. You still gotta cook it though.

O.city 01-14-2019 04:48 PM

I'd load up and stop the run first. It's taboo to say, but i'd make brady have to beat me throwing it and just hope I can get there.

sedated 01-14-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14038491)
But we play almost a totally different defense than the Chargers. We are Tom Brady's nightmare.

NE scored 43 against this defense.

JakeF 01-14-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OlineDline (Post 14038515)
I always find it hilarious that there is a "recipe" to beat the Pats but no one will use it.

Ridiculous.

What recipe are you talking about?

ToxSocks 01-14-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 14038559)
NE scored 43 against this defense.

Sutton was playing a lot of 3-man rush iirc. They need to play Brady the way they played Luck.

petegz28 01-14-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 14038559)
NE scored 43 against this defense.

No Houston
No Sorenson
No Berry
No Ward
No Lucas

Hell, you had Parker and Shaw and Scandrick in that secondary.

They didn't score 43 on "this" defense....

DenverChief 01-14-2019 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14038421)
I still think we go with a 5-man defensive line. That's our best setup to stop the run and also rush the passer. 5-2-4

Houston, Nnadi, Jones, Williams, Ford
Hitchens, O'Daniel
Nelson, Fuller, Berry, Ward

Fuller needs to play a great game covering Edelman. I hope that Berry is healthy enough to cover Gronk.

We need Jones attacking Brady right up the middle.

Hate to burst your bubble but it's most likely going to be
Houston, Nnadi, Jones, Williams, Ford
Hitchens, Ragland
Ward, Fuller, Lucas, Sorenson (Nelson as the nickle)


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