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CupidStunt 04-19-2019 04:42 AM

I haven't followed this draft much, but from what I've seen and know, I'd do everything I could to trade up for Clelin Ferrell. I think he'll go higher than people expect, though. MUCH higher than 23. He looks like the next Chandler Jones to me.

CupidStunt 04-19-2019 04:46 AM

As for this mock though, I'd SNAP take Hollywood at 29. He won't make it to us though. He's going way earlier. Think Ted Ginn draftday "huh." I'd even trade up for him, too, although not using a future 1st.

BryanBusby 04-19-2019 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 14214180)
As for this mock though, I'd SNAP take Hollywood at 29. He won't make it to us though. He's going way earlier. Think Ted Ginn draftday "huh." I'd even trade up for him, too, although not using a future 1st.

Lisfranc injuries for guys that depend on speed is a real gamble. I'd be very wary.
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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14214178)
If both Greedy and Tillery were on the board at 29 and the Chiefs traded back I'd be sad.

They seem pretty high on Nnadi. I don't know.

staylor26 04-19-2019 07:10 AM

I’m high on Nnadi too, but I’d still take Tillery. Jones/Nnadi/Tillery would be a great group of interior DL. Jones and Tillery can both line up at DE, so you can still get all 3 on the field a ton.

Chargem 04-19-2019 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14214271)
Lisfranc injuries for guys that depend on speed is a real gamble. I'd be very wary.

They seem pretty high on Nnadi. I don't know.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14214297)
I’m high on Nnadi too, but I’d still take Tillery. Jones/Nnadi/Tillery would be a great group of interior DL. Jones and Tillery can both line up at DE, so you can still get all 3 on the field a ton.

Exactly what Staylor says, taking Tillery would not be a knock on Nnadi at all. It would be about taking a guy who's probably going to be a beast, even if it's not a position of need right now, and then having options of how you deploy these guys.

I'd be much happier with the guys at edge if we had a pair of pass rushers up the middle, and it's not like we have any DT's currently signed for 2020 apart from Nnadi anyway.

BryanBusby 04-19-2019 07:49 AM

Chris Jones isn't going anywhere for a long time. I don't know if I'm sold on DT being a first round pick with the starters seemingly in place, but I wouldn't rule it out if they're locked in to 29 and going elsewhere would be a reach.

Coogs 04-19-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14214297)
I’m high on Nnadi too, but I’d still take Tillery. Jones/Nnadi/Tillery would be a great group of interior DL. Jones and Tillery can both line up at DE, so you can still get all 3 on the field a ton.

I agree with this. I think you could add Dexter Lawrence and have a similar scenario. Just Jones sliding out to DE some.

BryanBusby 04-19-2019 08:48 AM

I'd be surprised if Dexter made it to us with how many 3-4 teams are in the late teens, early 20's and teams like the Seahawks would definitely make use of him.

TambaBerry 04-19-2019 08:49 AM

i dont want to slide jones out to DE though, he wrecked from an interior dline position which is the hardest area to create pressure why would you want to take that away?

Coogs 04-19-2019 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14214533)
i dont want to slide jones out to DE though, he wrecked from an interior dline position which is the hardest area to create pressure why would you want to take that away?

I don't on an every down basis. An interior 3 man rotation of Nnadi, Jones, and Tillery/Lawrence keeps us solid in the middle against the run, and can collapse the pocket. Just having the ability to slide Jones out to the end on a few plays if necessary is okay too.

EDIT: FWIW, this is just guys he has available at 29 that I don't think would be there at 46. Brown, Williams, Tillery, Lawrence. I think I would even add Adderley. These are all guys who could help our team who wouldn't probably make it to pick 46.

Chargem 04-19-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14214533)
i dont want to slide jones out to DE though, he wrecked from an interior dline position which is the hardest area to create pressure why would you want to take that away?

Yeah we're not saying change his position, we're saying a pass rushing set of Jones and Tillery inside, a base set of Jones and Nnadi and then some exotic sets with all 3 on the field.

Gotta have a rotation in there to keep everyone fresh.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 11:41 AM

The amount of different defensive line variations would be crazy with Tillery, Jones, Nnadi, Speaks, Okafor and Ogbah.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-19-2019 03:29 PM

Charles Robinson says one team has Daniel Jones as their #1 QB, and that we all should know who it is. AKA the Giants.

Could be the pick at 6 if they don’t trade down or up from 17.

The Franchise 04-19-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14215412)
Charles Robinson says one team has Daniel Jones as their #1 QB, and that we all should know who it is. AKA the Giants.

Could be the pick at 6 if they don’t trade down or up from 17.

Or maybe they'll be looking to trade back into the end of the 1st round.

I don't think I'd have a problem if they threw us #37 and #95 to move back 8 spots.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-19-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14215432)
Or maybe they'll be looking to trade back into the end of the 1st round.

I don't think I'd have a problem if they threw us #37 and #95 to move back 8 spots.

I’ve watched and listened to a lot of stuff the past few days—sounds like Jones is looked at fondly amongst several FOs and is likely going in the top 15, possibly before Lock and maybe even Haskins.


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