He did know Mahomes was in the division when he took the job

That would explain why he was defending Antonio Brown in his latest press conference. They have a lot in common.

I'm really confused by the post, so you like Carr and liked him previously, but why'd Gruden take a job in a division with PM? I'm not sure I understand why you had to put that part in about Carr. Are you hoping he reads this site and maybe will send you a message about properly wearing mascara? Do you want to suck hisdick?

Weird thread

I was simply asking if Gruden knew what Mahomes would turn into would he still have taken the job....

10/100 per Forbes

Would Brian Flores have taken the Dolphins job had he known Tom Brady was in the division? Would Eric Mangini have left his cushy foot licking job and DC of the Patriots and went to coach the Jets had he known Tom Brady was in his division?

But Derek Carr

DC poster putting out a stellar thread here. Take this over to your home so BEP and HCF can give their football opinions.

Was talking about his ESPN contract...

Indeed

Wasn’t gruden 100 mil fully guaranteed

If so doing a shit job and getting fired frees him up to do other things

It's probably a partial guarantee. First 4 or 5 years most likely. I doubt the other owners would let Davis give a fully guaranteed 10 year contract. Especially to someone who hasn't coached in a decade.

Gruden is doing it right, IMO. He knows he could be 'good' now with Mack and Cooper but he knows with Mahomes good isn't good enough.

He is trading value now, since especailly with the city change in a year or two, now doesn't matter as much, and is trying to be the hottest new thing in the league when they move to Vegas, and compete when Mahomes is making 40 million a year and the Chiefs don't have the roster quite as stacked as they do now.

That's awesome. Close to $16m already, haha.