Is it too controversial to say that both Andy and Mahomes were awful in the 4th quarter tonight? Because they were.

The difference is that I don’t expect that to be the norm for Pat. But it has been the norm for 20 years for Reid, and I don’t anticipate that changing anytime soon.

And screens are some of those plays.

You would just be wrong.

And they are designed to catch a team being aggressive, which they weren't after multiple screen/dump passes.

Both of those flat passes were going to work if Mahomes had thrown the ball properly.

All 22 will vindicate Andy on this further.

my opinion is not an isolated one in some far corner of Chiefs nation. The vast majority of Chief fans think Reid’s too conservative with a lead late in games.

Same opinion in Philly all those years.

And it’s not isolated to just fans either. Those who study the game, know the X’s And O’s also agree its Andy’s weakest part of his coaching game.

Andy should be given a shitload of credit tonight. The team had to adapt after the turf went to hell and Tyreek left the game.

Andy changed the entire offensive gameplan. For ****'s sake, we ran POWER O inside the 10 with two tight ends. And it WORKED.

This is what you dumbasses have been screaming about all year.

"Andy just wants to throw deep every play, hurr durr."

Well, he didn't, after that terrible INT by Mahomes. He pulled out some of his best coaching of the year. And it worked to perfection, and pushed the Chargers into desperation mode, away from their running game.

And if the offensive line had blocked a tiny bit better at the end, and Mahomes had not ****ed up, we're not having these stupid threads.

Andy is a ****ing genius and you guys can't enjoy a win. Pathetic.

1) At least these plays allowed MVP to improvise. Designed swing/screen puts it all on an average back, instead of MVP.
2) Patrick improvising = good. Give him 3 chances as opposed to 1 in a desperate situation. The kid is a pure competitor. He finds a way.

How about just running a pass play designed for Kelce over the middle.

Those weren't designed swing passes. The back was open because of the route combo. A different defense, with a defender in the flat, he's not open.

Mahomes has to execute the throw. Not on Andy.

You do realize they called a pass play to Kelce on the last offensive snap...no?

You can't go to that well every time.

I get bitching about Andy last week. I was.

This wasn't a repeat. This was poor execution by the OL and Mahomes.

I stated that Andy’s the 2nd best Coach in the NFL. That I’m damn glad he’s my teams coach.

Posting on here for 16 years. I think most would agree that I’m more in the small “homer” part of this board than the fire everyone crowd.

The problem with that (and I'm not saying that the saying is wrong) is that it's used as an excuse so much that it's a lazy go to response instead of actually wondering if that were the case.

A lot of times, yes it is. Tonight was one of those instances where he called an alright game. People want to rip the conservative nature, but sometimes it's not a bad idea.

It wasn't like Rivers was having an all star performance.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really need the KC media to start grilling Andy on his soft play calling in the 4th quarter. And do it at the presser. Wake up the old man.</p>&mdash; The OG Chiefs Kingdom (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1196652314355884032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid just doesn’t learn does he? Needed a first down to seal the game last week and he called a QB rollout. Same situation this week and he does the same thing. Wow.</p>&mdash; Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1196645576537825280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marty shares your opinion. He's never right.

I rest my case.

ROFL