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Lzen 01-26-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15512969)
Oh, I actually had that one in mind and did forget... I was going say "TOP and run it down the throats of the Chiefs".

I just watched nick Wright on that show he's on with the other hosts. He made the argument and showed a graphic that low scoring TOP games don't work against mahomes.

Lzen 01-26-2021 09:47 PM

Here is that show, First Things First.
Nick makes a great case. It's just a matter of having to suffer through Eric Mangini.

https://youtu.be/F-kggF9B-F8

His thing starts about 3:30

scho63 01-26-2021 09:47 PM

Do you have the condensed version with pictures? :hmmm:

Bearcat 01-26-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15513032)
"Chiefs can't stop the run."

"The Chiefs defense is trash." Actually that might just be the three or four reeruns that regularly show up on the GDTs and have to vomit that nonsense during the first drive.

I was trying to stick to universal truths and those are more or less season-to-season... they're outdated, for sure.

Similar to the media calling the Rams "the greatest show on turf" 4 years after it was true, it is ****ing annoying when things like that stick around so long.

digger 01-26-2021 09:54 PM

The CHIEFS are re-writing the books...

Bearcat 01-26-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15513064)
Do you have the condensed version with pictures? :hmmm:

This is the condensed version of it! LMAO

It's the past 3 months of opposing fan arguments in one thread.

As someone who posts gifs like 70% of the time, I did fail when it comes to not providing pictures. The reddit video that I posted earlier sums it up in a way though.

Buehler445 01-26-2021 10:07 PM

Great posts

TwistedChief 01-26-2021 10:13 PM

Hugs, BC. Nicely done.

frozenchief 01-26-2021 10:21 PM

1. This is a great post. Good use of facts rather than just mindlessly repeating the same old cliches like some kind of damn puppet.

2. There’s a Narrative to which I have subscribed that will be tested this weekend: how important is the O line? Granted, it can’t be garbage but I have argued here (and elsewhere) that with a QB like Mahomes, KC should invest the money in enough of the O line to be among the best O lines in the league. I think Remmers is pretty good but he’s not as good as Fisher or Schwartz. Our O line has been ravaged by injuries this year and yet they’ve done well enough to protect Mahomes and allow our offense to function. They’ve done well enough that while I would like to see improvement, I at least question the Narrative.

this upcoming Super Bowl will certainly test the Narrative. I’ve admitted when I’ve been wrong before. I’ll do it again. If our patchwork O-line can provide enough protection to allow our offense to function well, it will be persuasive evidence against my argument. And if our O-line falters, that Narrative might survive to another day.

Hell, what am I talking about? Of course the Narrative will survive. Some people believe what they want to believe irrespective of all evidence. But if our O line does a respectable job, I will at least re-consider my embrace of that Narrative. (But we should still get an upgrade at center this off season, whether by trade free-agency or draft.)

Anyway, great post. Thanks for putting thought into this and posting something intelligent.

Halfcan 01-26-2021 10:47 PM

Narrative:

Buffalo won the Mahomes trade.

Nope.

htismaqe 01-26-2021 10:50 PM

Absolutely excellent post. Some of your best work ever and that's saying something.

stevieray 01-26-2021 10:56 PM

Now fans of other teams get to engage in false bravados/excuses for choking against superiority.

The End.

Rain Man 01-26-2021 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15513111)
Hugs, BC. Nicely done.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I appreciate the sentiment, but six feet, buddy. Six feet away until the vaccines.

Pitt Gorilla 01-26-2021 11:20 PM

Possible Narrative: Mahomes is a product of his insane weapons. Pat simply throws to wide-open Kelce or Hill on every play.

The Truth: This is horseshit. Mahomes is most likely THE best ever.

Example: The Chiefs pre-Mahomes as a starter? Maybe a playoff win. The Chiefs post-Mahomes as a starter? AFC Championship game at a minimum. More likely, the Chiefs are Super Bowl Champs/Favorites.

Megatron96 01-26-2021 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15513214)
Possible Narrative: Mahomes is a product of his insane weapons. Pat simply throws to wide-open Kelce or Hill on every play.

The Truth: This is horseshit. Mahomes is most likely THE best ever.

Example: The Chiefs pre-Mahomes as a starter? Maybe a playoff win. The Chiefs post-Mahomes as a starter? AFC Championship game at a minimum. More likely, the Chiefs are Super Bowl Champs/Favorites.

Skip and Stephen A. said exactly this, this morning. Afternoon. Whatever. Stephen A. went so far as to say that if Rodgers/Allen were under center for KC instead of Mahomes, we'd see exactly the same results.


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