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tyreekthefreak

11-04-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15933642)

Bolton has been great at run stuffing but he struggles in pass coverage. People were giving Niemann shit for allowing the TD on Sunday, but that was Bolton's guy and he stepped up instead of dropping. Bolton will get there and gay is obviously getting better in pass coverage. It would be great if they could both become 3 down backers. However, folks need to understand with the salaries we have on this team, that you need guys like Niemann, at the league minimum and good at special teams, on the team. I agree that they should have limited snaps and be primarily back ups.

Are you sure it was Boltons guy on the TD? Isn't that why Nieman was in on the play for, for covering the tight end because he is faster than Bolton?

JohnnyHammersticks

11-04-2021 10:51 AM

Niemann may not be fast, but he's not very strong either. He's very weak at the point of attack.

That's the most positive thing I can say about him. Raiduhs

It's obviously favoritism. Neither he or Sorenson are the least bit productive, no matter what metric you use.

Seems like Spags has a bit of Reid's stubbornness. Almost like he wants to prove people who are rightfully screaming to bench Niemann and Sorenson wrong.

IowaHawkeyeChief

11-04-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tyreekthefreak (Post 15933761)

Are you sure it was Boltons guy on the TD? Isn't that why Nieman was in on the play for, for covering the tight end because he is faster than Bolton?

Watch the replay, it was either Bolton not dropping or Spags scheme. Niemann was in the middle on that play and could never cover that receiver even if he was Ray Lewis...

Rainbarrel

11-04-2021 01:05 PM

Don't wear out the rookie, but if you don't it won't matter.

Sassy Squatch

11-04-2021 01:10 PM

Not too hard to understand why Spags defenses always fall off hard. Could you imagine being a young hungry player that can't get any time because he favors washed up JAGs that "KnOw ThE SyStEm" I'd eventually lose interest in whatever he's spouting.

Chris Meck

11-04-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15933656)

Maybe we’re thinking about this all wrong.

Why can’t DOD replace Sorenson when he’s up close to the LOS. Dude was basically a S/LB hybrid in college. Don’t ask him to cover deep, like we shouldn’t be asking Sorensen to do and let him use his athleticism.

I've said this a few times a season for YEARS NOW.

crispystl

11-04-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15934039)

This is a good point. It's hard to "buy-in" when your leader won't even play the best players.

treeguy27

11-04-2021 01:48 PM

Part of the Hitchens/Bolton scenario is the old idea that a guy shouldn't lose his starting job due to injury. It's dumb, but I completely expect when Hitchens is healthy he will get more reps than Bolton. After it continues to be obvious that Bolton is better, then Spags will finally concede.

arrwheader

11-04-2021 02:16 PM

It's already obvious and he basically said today he's playing Hitchens. That is he will at least take some snaps away from him being the Mike.

Get ready to be frustrated some more Sunday.

Sorenson's snaps increased this last week too and it showed because he sucks. Hopefully that's not a trend back up but with spags I don't put it past him.

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oldman

11-04-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15933621)

Just makes you wonder what's going on with DoD and Watts. Those dudes have been on this team for years, there's not a chance in hell they dont know the system by now. I'd imagine they're here specifically because they know the system.

That's exactly the question I have every time I see a "Sorenson/Niemann is a shit player" thread. Could it be that Watts never has understood coverage and DOD's biggest hit might knock down a blow up doll?

oldman

11-04-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15934039)

Could you imagine being a young hungry player that can't get any time because he favors washed up JAGs that "KnOw ThE SyStEm" I'd eventually lose interest in whatever he's spouting.

DOD was a 3rd round pick in 2018 and Niemann an UDFA in 2018. You can hardly call DOD "young, hungry player" over Niemann. Watts was a 4th rounder in 2018, so he's not that young and probably eats pretty well when he can find the table.

Understand I'm not defending Sorenson and Niemann, but only pointing out neither Watts or DOD have done much to prove they're not just JAG ST guys.

Valiant

11-04-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15933591)

Does Spags not watch practices or something? I mean I just can't imagine that Dan Sorensen or Ben Niemann look any different on the practice field.

Like how do you watch this dumbass lead footed jackass do what he does all week in practice and then make a decision on game day that THIS is the guy that needs to be the deep safety here?

Or THIS is a guy I trust in single coverage?

I just don't get it. The only place Sorensen can't really do any damage to us is in the box, as a Blitzer.

Even then, he likely doesn't get home and if by some miracle he does, odds are he's gonna miss the ****ing tackle anyway.

I mean what are the guys numbers this year? He's given up like 350 yards and 3 tds with like maybe 3 incompletions.

That #49 is a giant flashing billboard that advertises free yards, points, and amazing qbr.

We need them gone for practices also. Patrick needs to practice against a full NFL defense. Not the chiefs d plus the 3 stooges.

Halfcan

11-04-2021 07:47 PM

Spags ****ed the defense when he moved Jones and they brought Neiman and his buttbuddy Dirty Dan back.

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