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comochiefsfan 11-16-2021 10:55 AM

Imagine Chris Simms thinking he has the cache to criticize any great QBs.

That's like me trying a Gordon Ramsey meal and telling him it sucks.

Chiefspants 11-16-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15958523)
Imagine Chris Simms thinking he has the cache to criticize any great QBs.

That's like me trying a Gordon Ramsey meal and telling him it sucks.

By that standard there are a lot of people on this forum who owe Mahomes an apology.

RealSNR 11-16-2021 11:16 AM

We'll know a lot more this week. Cowboys have a great offense. It's great that Mahomes got the offense going when the defense was putting the screws to the opponent, but can he maintain that same swagger without pressing if the defense is giving up more scores?

Yes, I know he's won plenty of shootouts in his career. The problem during his "slump" is he wasn't winning those shootouts and throwing picks in the process. Can he get that part of his game back?

RaidersOftheCellar 11-16-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15958523)
Imagine Chris Simms thinking he has the cache to criticize any great QBs.

That's like me trying a Gordon Ramsey meal and telling him it sucks.

Haven't you been critical of Mahomes and the team in general?

chiefforlife 11-16-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15958523)
Imagine Chris Simms thinking he has the cache to criticize any great QBs.

That's like me trying a Gordon Ramsey meal and telling him it sucks.


No, its not.

He may not have been physically gifted like a great QB but that doesnt mean he cant recognize or critique one.
Do you think Belichik could criticize a QB or Andy Reid or anyone who has studied or played the position? Of course they can.

Its literally just an opinion anyway.

Same goes for Chef Ramsey, do you HAVE to like his food just because hes a famous Chef? No.

If his food sucked to you, then it sucked. Other people may like it but again, thats your opinion.

comochiefsfan 11-16-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15958560)
Haven't you been critical of Mahomes and the team in general?

Nope you must have me confused with someone else.

I've been critical of the General Manager. Not Mahomes.

Chris Meck 11-16-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15958614)
Nope you must have me confused with someone else.

I've been critical of the General Manager. Not Mahomes.

You know FAR less about being an NFL GM than Chris Simms does about playing QB. FAR less.

Balto 11-16-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15958390)
The Chiefs look like themselves for one game and all of the sudden everybody here never had a doubt and anyone who did needs to apologize.

I didn't doubt that Mahomes would eventually get it together, but to say you never doubted it would happen THIS game is a bunch of horseshit and you know it.

They've left themselves very little room for error going forward, but if they stay hot, nobody can beat them.

Most impressive is the defensive turnaround, which is mostly attitude; which was lacking the first what, 6 weeks?

The offense was always going to come around at some point, they're just too good not to.

But don't act like you knew for sure that they were going to drop 40 on The Raiders with Wylie at RT and looking like they had for the last several weeks.

Your right....I guessed 50 /shrug

MahomesMagic 11-16-2021 12:25 PM

Simms still thinks the Raiders didn't play the Chiefs the right way.

They did in the first and Reid and Mahomes crushed it.

Then the Raiders altered in the 2nd half but they didn't alter to things that were better. They played more 3 high and that left wide open field for us to run guys through and to hit RPO stuff.

Against KC you limit the deep shots AND take away the RPO game by dropping your linebackers back more.

Make Reid run the ball more which he dislikes.

jd1020 11-16-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 15958612)
No, its not.

He may not have been physically gifted like a great QB but that doesnt mean he cant recognize or critique one.
Do you think Belichik could criticize a QB or Andy Reid or anyone who has studied or played the position? Of course they can.

Its literally just an opinion anyway.

Same goes for Chef Ramsey, do you HAVE to like his food just because hes a famous Chef? No.

If his food sucked to you, then it sucked. Other people may like it but again, thats your opinion.

**** Ramsey's beef wellington. Have I tried it? Nope. Will I ever try it? Nope. Why? Because mother **** liver. That's why.

staylor26 11-16-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15958614)
Nope you must have me confused with someone else.

I've been critical of the General Manager. Not Mahomes.

And he’s proceeded to make you look like a ****ing dumbass.

HC_Chief 11-16-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15958685)
**** Ramsey's beef wellington. Have I tried it? Nope. Will I ever try it? Nope. Why? Because mother **** liver. That's why.

Huh? Liver? WTF? GR does not use liver in Beef Wellington. Who tf would use LIVER in Beef Wellington?!

Simms takes are solid, per usual. He is spot on that the faid really screwed up with their defensive playcalling. Play a basic cover 2, stay patient, force KC to run first and often. They didn't do that: they played a cover 3 with occasional cover 1. They frigging blew it, defensively, and the Chiefs did something fairly new for this season: they made them pay for it. Credit to KC for much improved execution.

Chris Meck 11-16-2021 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15958668)
Simms still thinks the Raiders didn't play the Chiefs the right way.

They did in the first and Reid and Mahomes crushed it.

Then the Raiders altered in the 2nd half but they didn't alter to things that were better. They played more 3 high and that left wide open field for us to run guys through and to hit RPO stuff.

Against KC you limit the deep shots AND take away the RPO game by dropping your linebackers back more.

Make Reid run the ball more which he dislikes.

I would argue that none of that really mattered and what made the biggest difference was Mahomes happily tossing it over to Williams uncovered in the flat all game long.

That just absolutely killed The Raiders.

It's been there, we just haven't taken it much. Sunday we saw how taking that outlet pass, especially early, opens everything up later in the game.

jd1020 11-16-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 15958701)
Huh? Liver? WTF? GR does not use liver in Beef Wellington. Who tf would use LIVER in Beef Wellington?!

Most every recipe for Beef Wellington. It's in the pate underneath the pastry.

MahomesMagic 11-16-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15958704)
I would argue that none of that really mattered and what made the biggest difference was Mahomes happily tossing it over to Williams uncovered in the flat all game long.

That just absolutely killed The Raiders.

It's been there, we just haven't taken it much. Sunday we saw how taking that outlet pass, especially early, opens everything up later in the game.

There have been plays like checkdowns that we weren't taking but unlike the Green Bay game (where Reid schemed a drive or so) we attacked the Raiders without mercy in the correct places all 1st half.

It wasn't just Mahomes and execution. Our coaching had become stale as well and Reid finally altered for more than the scripted plays (In Green Bay he attacked the weak spots then went back to our normal playbook).


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