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htismaqe 01-24-2022 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16104038)
Um....he got screwed on that dead ball penalty, right?

Am I wrong there? Because I have NEVER seen a targeting sort of penalty called a dead ball foul and lead to a turnover like that. Is there a precedent for that?
I've not seen it either but I'm not sure I've ever seen a play that the hit happened so soon after the ball hitting the ground.

Once the ball hits the ground, the play is dead. It was the right call, by a hair.

Chiefspants 01-24-2022 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16104038)
Um....he got screwed on that dead ball penalty, right?

Am I wrong there? Because I have NEVER seen a targeting sort of penalty called a dead ball foul and lead to a turnover like that. Is there a precedent for that?
Brady picked a hell of a week to publicly brag about getting favorable officiating before the game.

I think the NFL has been doing more of those dead ball calls. The first one I thought of was Winfield's taunting penalty to Tyreek last year after that 4th down incompletion. Different deal, obviously, since that wasn't targeting from a defender who was reacting to a play in progress, but calling dead ball fouls that way on 4th down does seem to be an emphasis of the NFL lately.

Clyde Frog 01-24-2022 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16104032)
Good.

I heard some guys postulating that the NFL told the refs to chill the **** out after the WC round because of the blowback and there weren’t many flags in any of the division games.

It was incredibly weird to watch ****hole Brady play a properly officiated game. It was like the twilight zone. He’d throw the same garbage pass that misses bad and he’s staring at the official not throwing a flag. Wheras most of his career he gets that flag, is back in the huddle and hurting up to get his checkdown game going. SUPER WEIRD. And where the **** has that been the last 20 years?
The funniest part was that their bandwagon got completely butthurt by that and the hit from Miller and complained about the refs on social media after the game. It is a glorious time to be a Chiefs fan.

Hammock Parties 01-24-2022 02:22 PM
We are going back to the big one.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2022 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16104046)
I've not seen it either but I'm not sure I've ever seen a play that the hit happened so soon after the ball hitting the ground.

Once the ball hits the ground, the play is dead. It was the right call, by a hair.
Just seems to me that there should be a 'continuation' of sorts. He began the act while the ball was still in the air. We're going to say that there wasn't a penalty until the point of actual contact and parse the line that thin?

It sure seems to give guys a green light on 4th downs to go being a guided missile out there. Seems to run opposite of what the league's been trying to do on those plays.

Gary Cooper 01-24-2022 02:47 PM
The league is fattening the Chiefs up for the Super Bowl.

Jeff Triplette will probably call that game.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-24-2022 03:11 PM
Good draw for KC. Seems either NFL wants KC in the Super Bowl or they just want the officials to stay the **** out of things, so you can see games like last night play out on the field instead of by the flags.

That said, Bengals in Super Bowl isn't a great sell for the NFL. Chiefs vs. Rams is the game EVERYONE wanted 3 years ago and in Rams home stadium. Chiefs vs. 49er's The Rematch is also appealing and will pull in LOTS of viewers.

I'm pretty confident the NFL 'prefers' KC to win this game next week. Now they just need to go do it . . . . . . .

Chief Pagan 01-24-2022 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16104086)
Just seems to me that there should be a 'continuation' of sorts. He began the act while the ball was still in the air. We're going to say that there wasn't a penalty until the point of actual contact and parse the line that thin?

It sure seems to give guys a green light on 4th downs to go being a guided missile out there. Seems to run opposite of what the league's been trying to do on those plays.
The studio ref analyst agreed the rule was clear and the call was correct.

It is a bright line rule. Although I agree you could write the rule so it was like roughing the passer where it didn't matter whether the ball had sailed by or hit the ground.

Teams aren't throwing on fourth down all that much.

Lilmrp117 01-24-2022 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 16104159)
The league is fattening the Chiefs up for the Super Bowl.

Jeff Triplette will probably call that game.
Yeah. This makes me nervous to get 3 good refs in a row in the playoffs. What are the chances of getting a 4th straight good one?

Not good according to this site speculating on the super bowl ref based on past trends:
https://www.footballzebras.com/2022/...ne-of-these-2/

They predict either Blakeman or Torbert (the assface from the Bengals game).

Red Dawg 01-24-2022 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16104074)
We are going back to the big one.
Not yet but looking good.

wazu 01-24-2022 03:56 PM
Rams/Niners are getting Cheffers. Poor bastards.

Why Not? 01-24-2022 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16104402)
Rams/Niners are getting Cheffers. Poor bastards.
Hopefully this eliminates him from the SB. Hoping for Hussey again.

Coochie liquor 01-24-2022 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 16104371)
Yeah. This makes me nervous to get 3 good refs in a row in the playoffs. What are the chances of getting a 4th straight good one?

Not good according to this site speculating on the super bowl ref based on past trends:
https://www.footballzebras.com/2022/...ne-of-these-2/

They predict either Blakeman or Torbert (the assface from the Bengals game).
Jesus, please not either of those turds. Either of those are the ref, then it will seem the fix is in for the opposing team.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-24-2022 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16104038)
Um....he got screwed on that dead ball penalty, right?

Am I wrong there? Because I have NEVER seen a targeting sort of penalty called a dead ball foul and lead to a turnover like that. Is there a precedent for that?
technically the ball hit the ground and it was 4th down, so the play is over. So the roughness was a dead ball penalty. Don't like the rule, but **** Brady.

DJ's left nut 01-24-2022 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16104327)
The studio ref analyst agreed the rule was clear and the call was correct.

It is a bright line rule. Although I agree you could write the rule so it was like roughing the passer where it didn't matter whether the ball had sailed by or hit the ground.

Teams aren't throwing on fourth down all that much.
That’s the natural comparison, isn’t it? QB fires a ball on a swing or something, short/quick pass that goes straight into the dirt. Then the DL smokes him after the ball hits.

Are we really going to argue that should be a dead ball foul?

It’s just an odd application of that rule and one that I think they should fix/clarify. I hate targeting but that’s EXACTLY the kind of thing it exists to prevent and the Rams really didn’t suffer for it.


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