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Gary Cooper 02-01-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16123475)
RB talent or productivity wasn’t the issue vs Cincy.

McKinnon 5.4 yards per carry, CEH 6.0 yards per carry in the game… unfortunately they can’t hand the ball off to themselves and force Andy to actually run it.

True. If we had Derrick Henry, Reid would still go away from the run in key moments. Even with a big lead. Even after a few big runs. He's too stubborn. If the passing game isn't working, he will keep passing until it does.

Bob Dole 02-01-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16123819)
Look at what Clyde has.

Punishing o line? Check.

Receivers that must be accounted for? Check.

Qb that can punish 8 man front? Check.

Virtually every look Clyde has see, has been a defense BEGGING to be beaten by the run instead of by Mahomes. But this guy goes 2 yards into the centers ass and falls down on most plays.

A true running back, and God knows I hate bringing up Kareem Hunt, but he's the easiest comparison, because everyone here watched Kareem run. Kareem Hunt isn't the best back in football. He doesn't even start for his team, but he knows how to be an NFL running back.

ANY back that has vision, and is a strong runner, like Kareem Hunt, would absolutely have the rushing title against these looks this season.

Imagine Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, any of these 25-30 carry a game capable running backs against these shell coverages.

You get the 2018 Chiefs offense. You play back, we run it down your throat. You come up, Patrick goes for 400 and 3+ td.

The run game is the most important fix for us right now. Gotta believe Veach has seen the failed experiment with Clyde. Against these looks and you're still mediocre?

Clyde wouldn't even start on another team.

Did Clyde screw your sister?

I’m pretty sure you need to run the ball to get rushing yards.

RunKC 02-01-2022 09:50 AM

One thing I have really liked about 2021 was our complete rebuild of the LB corps. The future is so bright with Gay and Bolton.

They compliment each other really well

The Franchise 02-01-2022 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16123819)
Look at what Clyde has.

Punishing o line? Check.

Receivers that must be accounted for? Check.

Qb that can punish 8 man front? Check.

Virtually every look Clyde has see, has been a defense BEGGING to be beaten by the run instead of by Mahomes. But this guy goes 2 yards into the centers ass and falls down on most plays.

A true running back, and God knows I hate bringing up Kareem Hunt, but he's the easiest comparison, because everyone here watched Kareem run. Kareem Hunt isn't the best back in football. He doesn't even start for his team, but he knows how to be an NFL running back.

ANY back that has vision, and is a strong runner, like Kareem Hunt, would absolutely have the rushing title against these looks this season.

Imagine Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, any of these 25-30 carry a game capable running backs against these shell coverages.

You get the 2018 Chiefs offense. You play back, we run it down your throat. You come up, Patrick goes for 400 and 3+ td.

The run game is the most important fix for us right now. Gotta believe Veach has seen the failed experiment with Clyde. Against these looks and you're still mediocre?

Clyde wouldn't even start on another team.

We found Kareem Hunt in the third round. It doesn't have to be a high pick. We just need a tough, stud bell cow running back that Patrick will not feel is a wasted play to go ahead and hand off on those RPO's.

Lot of these RPO's turn into passes because Pat sees what we see. 2 yards and fall down, or keep, scramble, make a play.

Getting a rb that Mahomes trusts to run is going to be huge.

The one thing that he doesn't have is a HC that will run the ball with any consistency.

smithandrew051 02-01-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16123841)
One thing I have really liked about 2021 was our complete rebuild of the LB corps. The future is so bright with Gay and Bolton.

They compliment each other really well

Yeah, that’s an underrated part of Veach’s work.

It’s really nice to know that we’re pretty well set at several positions. OL and LB probably just need a cheap vet. Same with TE (someone like Bell).

Even CB can be okay if we just re-sign Ward.

You have to assume that the offseason will be dedicated to S, DL, WR depth (a true #2), and maybe another RB.

smithandrew051 02-01-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16123842)
The one thing that he doesn't have is a HC that will run the ball with any consistency.

I’ve come to terms with this fact.

I don’t want to see us make any major investment in the RB position, because I’m afraid it’ll just be wasted.

If we won’t use them when effective, why invest more than a mid-late pick?

Molitoth 02-01-2022 10:31 AM

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1. The Chiefs need a true running back.

RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner.

I SOOOO disagree for these reasons:

1) Andy doesn't want to run the ball. Investing big Money here is a ****ing waste.
2) What more does Gore and McKinnon have to show you that they can be successful? The Chiefs run the ball very well, they just REFUSE to ****ing run it. Even CEH has looked good since coming back from injury.

staylor26 02-01-2022 10:33 AM

My takeaway is that this team blew a huge opportunity at getting their 2nd SB ring in 3 years.

Complete and utter failure.

And I probably won’t get over it until they win another.

AdolfOliverBush 02-01-2022 10:35 AM

8. OC and DC should be gone.
9. Reid needs to give playcalling duties to someone else.

staylor26 02-01-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16123972)
8. OC and DC should be gone.
9. Reid needs to give playcalling duties to someone else.

****ing stupid.

AdolfOliverBush 02-01-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16123990)
****ing stupid.

So you're cool with a DC whose defenses routinely suck ass for at least half the season, and an OC who isn't really an OC at all?

Chiefspants 02-01-2022 11:09 AM

We'll be back and I couldn't be happier to be a fan of this team. I believe in Patrick, in Andy, and in KC.

It's gonna be awesome, dudes.

LiveSteam 02-01-2022 11:12 AM

At some point Pat has to address his beta brother and gold digger of a woman
Those 2 are a stain on Pat and the franchise he plays for.

I hate them both

King_Chief_Fan 02-01-2022 11:36 AM

As long as Andy and Bieniemy are here, what is this team going to do with a different RB?

Clyde and Derek were averaging close to 7 yds per carry Sunday in first half.

In the second half of playoffs the run was abandoned.

Wallcrawler 02-01-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16123831)
Did Clyde screw your sister?

I’m pretty sure you need to run the ball to get rushing yards.

Oh. My bad. I went back and watched 2018 over, and saw that Kareem Hunt led the league in rushing without us running the football.

Sorry.

Sorry.


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