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htismaqe 02-10-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16139059)
I think Brisker is my guy at 30. I’ve flirted with DE at that spot but DE is deep going into the 2nd round.

Same here. I've done a hundred mocks at this point and Brisker is the guy that consistently holds the most value at 30.

Dante84 02-10-2022 01:31 PM

I loved what we did with Bolton & Humphrey last year.

Rather than picking backup/developmental player who was 8th/9th ranked in his respective position group, we took the #1 Center.

I'd love to snag a starter with our top pick as well.

htismaqe 02-10-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16139065)
I loved what we did with Bolton & Humphrey last year.

Rather than picking backup/developmental player who was 8th/9th ranked in his respective position group, we took the #1 Center.

I'd love to snag a starter with our top pick as well.

Exactly.

Last season's draft was a smashing success. We should be looking to do the same this year.

The good news is that we can truly go BPA at 30 and still get that. There's several DE, DT, CB, and S candidates that would contribute significantly day 1. Even a WR could be although it's less likely due to scheme and history.

staylor26 02-10-2022 01:45 PM

As it stands right now I can absolutely see a safety in round 1, but there are just so many good free agent safeties that I just don’t think we will be seeing it the same after free agency. I think we get at least one.

We shall see.

The Franchise 02-10-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16139088)
As it stands right now I can absolutely see a safety in round 1, but there are just so many good free agent safeties that I just don’t think we will be seeing it the same after free agency. I think we get at least one.

We shall see.

FA will obviously dictate what we do but safety is just as bare as defensive end at this point.

staylor26 02-10-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16139096)
FA will obviously dictate what we do but safety is just as bare as defensive end at this point.

And the list of free agent safeties is great, while the DE list is average.

Also, the DE class is strong in this draft, while the safety class is average.

Just feels like DE will be more likely early in the draft than S when it’s all said and done.

htismaqe 02-10-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16139100)
And the list of free agent safeties is great, while the DE list is average.

Also, the DE class is strong in this draft, while the safety class is average.

Just feels like DE will be more likely early in the draft than S when it’s all said and done.

To be honest, I think we address safety with a big name, early in free agency.

For better or worse, I expect that name to be Tyrann Mathieu.

staylor26 02-10-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139114)
To be honest, I think we address safety with a big name, early in free agency.

For better or worse, I expect that name to be Tyrann Mathieu.

Really? I seriously doubt it.

I think they sign somebody like Whitehead.

htismaqe 02-10-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16139118)
Really? I seriously doubt it.

I think they sign somebody like Whitehead.

I expect them to bring Mathieu back, yes. I don't really like the idea but I think that's what they're going to do.

Dante84 02-10-2022 02:26 PM

The biggest worry I have about a round 1 edge is that it will be the 6th or 7th edge off the board, and at that point, are those guys going to be pro-bowl caliber players?

I've been spoiled into wanting a homerun with our early picks, and also terrified by our past edge picks of KPass and Kaindoh.

The Franchise 02-10-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16139114)
To be honest, I think we address safety with a big name, early in free agency.

For better or worse, I expect that name to be Tyrann Mathieu.

Chiefs Twitter will rejoice.

I’ll be disappointed.

Titty Meat 02-10-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16139088)
As it stands right now I can absolutely see a safety in round 1, but there are just so many good free agent safeties that I just don’t think we will be seeing it the same after free agency. I think we get at least one.

We shall see.

Meh I think safety is such an overrated position on here. They don't need to be as good as Mathieu as long as they aren't as bad as Ron Parker the defense will be fine

htismaqe 02-10-2022 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16139389)
Meh I think safety is such an overrated position on here. They don't need to be as good as Mathieu as long as they aren't as bad as Ron Parker the defense will be fine

We need a starting safety. I actually agree with you that they don't need to be as good as Mathieu. Taking one in the draft makes a lot of sense monetarily, that's part of the reason you look at one early.

But to your point about quality, Thornhill is perfectly fine, if we could get another player as good as him, we'd be fine. We don't need perfection back there, we just need better.

The real problem at safety is that we have virtually nobody under contract. Sorenson and Watts suck ass and won't likely be back.

kccrow 02-10-2022 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16139389)
Meh I think safety is such an overrated position on here. They don't need to be as good as Mathieu as long as they aren't as bad as Ron Parker the defense will be fine

Agree with part 1. I'd argue so long as they are at least as good as Ron Parker, we'll be fine. Ron Parker, honestly, wasn't all that bad.

I look at that time with KC having Parker and Abdullah starting, and I never really thought the position was in dire straights. I don't think you have to go balls deep at the position to have solid players there. It's nice to have at least one really good one but I'm not sure it's the need we think it is. We had a nice go with Mathieu locking down slot receivers but that isn't the norm.

Chris Meck 02-11-2022 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16139389)
Meh I think safety is such an overrated position on here. They don't need to be as good as Mathieu as long as they aren't as bad as Ron Parker the defense will be fine

I think you couldn't be more wrong.


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