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Toad 03-28-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16221006)
If that’s the direction you go, that’s fine, but you better be right.

It’s really that simple.

Perfect answer. Period.

Chris Meck 03-28-2022 07:01 PM

8 picks in the first four rounds.

This is some Madden Franchise Mode shit!

This draft is going to be a ton of fun to watch!

Bowser 03-28-2022 07:04 PM

IMHO, if we package both our firsts to move up, it had best be for one of the elite pass rushers, and it better be getting us in the top ten or twelve picks.

I want a receiver out of this draft that will grow into a weapon as bad as anyone, but I'm not trading our most valuable capital to take one. EDGE is way more of a priority.

Cosmos 03-28-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221010)
Mocking Jameson Williams to the Chiefs is just lazy writing.

He's fast. Tyreek Hill was fast. They lost Tyreek Hill. So mock Williams to the Chiefs.

Shit is getting old.

You are the victim of what you complain about….laziness of thought.

The Chiefs need playmakers WR..JW is a playmaker, a very good one, one who is expected to go in the middle of the first round.

JuJu is signed for one year, Hardman is in the final year of of his contract. There is a need, a dire need to take a shot at a cost controlled potential star receiver.

Maybe you would like to see KC chose a QB with their first pick, because it would be unexpected, and stupid.

It’s not lazy, it’s obvious.

TambaBerry 03-28-2022 07:38 PM

Probably been stated but 1040 puts us at 14

The Franchise 03-28-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16221161)
You are the victim of what you complain about….laziness of thought.

The Chiefs need playmakers WR..JW is a playmaker, a very good one, one who is expected to go in the middle of the first round.

JuJu is signed for one year, Hardman is in the final year of of his contract. There is a need, a dire need to take a shot at a cost controlled potential star receiver.

Maybe you would like to see KC chose a QB with their first pick, because it would be unexpected, and stupid.

It’s not lazy, it’s obvious.

Jameson Williams is not the only playmaker in this draft. There are literally 8-10 WRs who would help this team and probably wouldn’t take trading up to get them.

ChiefAshhole1056 03-28-2022 09:55 PM

Would rather trade up for Burks.

kcbubb 03-28-2022 10:37 PM

My strategy would be to trade up and get jameson or burks. I’d prefer jameson. I’m assuming olave is gone. Get an edge at 30 And get an edge rusher and dt in the 2nd.

For example;

18th pick jameson with 29, earlier 3rd and 4th and a 4th in 2023
Or
21st pick burks with 29 with the later 3rd and 4th

Moving up to 15 is a little rich. But I like the edge rushers in the 2nd better than I like wrs in the late first and 2nd. I would be ok with trading up to 15 if we could trade down from 30 and try to get back in the 2nd to take a de or a dt.

All of these edge guys are probably available in the second and yes a run may happen early in the 2nd. Ojabo and Sam Williams are my favorites but lots of guys here to take.

Boye Mafe
David Ojabo
Arnold Ebiketie
Logan Hall
Drake Jackson
Kingsley Enagbare
Cameron Thomas
Nik Bonitto
Myjai Sanders
Sam Williams

Here are your 2nd round or later wrs. WRs are tough to evaluate with a high percentage of busts or jags. This group mostly probably falls into that category. Either they won’t be able to get off the jam, create separation, run routes or their competition or numbers are limited, which increases their risk.

Jahan Dotson
Christian Watson
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
David Bell
John Metchie III
Jalen Tolbert
Wan'Dale Robinson
Alec Pierce
Calvin Austin III

Here’s your 2nd round or later DTs. I’d target perrion winfrey in the 2nd.

Travis Jones
Logan Hall
DeMarvin Leal
Perrion Winfrey
Phidarian Mathis

So, your 1st and 2nd rounds of the draft might look like this with the first trade and you still have the 3rd, 4th, 6th and 7ths.

18 jameson
30 ojabo
50 perrion winfrey
62 Sam Williams

BossChief 03-28-2022 11:13 PM

I’m not interested in trading a first and second for anyone in this draft, but I wouldn’t be mad if Veach did it, either.

This draft has depth at the exact positions we have short and long term need at.

I’d prefer if Veach let’s the star come to him.

If he wants to move up…please try to use next years third or 4th..or both.

We need all the picks this year.

JPH83 03-29-2022 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221202)
Jameson Williams is not the only playmaker in this draft. There are literally 8-10 WRs who would help this team and probably wouldn’t take trading up to get them.

I could see Burks and/or Dotson dropping a bit, and one of them, or Moore or Pickens is going to be a very good player imo. But I'm far less confident than with Williams.

I agree with staylor and DJ - it's a big risk to give away the picks so you better be right, but you have to factor in the money as well.

Tribal Warfare 03-29-2022 03:56 AM

**** that, considering his availability

Jerm 03-29-2022 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16221492)
**** that, considering his availability

What he misses 3 or 4 games at the worst…? Come on.

Jameson Williams is going to be a superstar and easily WR1 for me so I’d do that trade in a second…

Tribal Warfare 03-29-2022 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 16221495)
What he misses 3 or 4 games at the worst…? Come on.

Jameson Williams is going to be a superstar and easily WR1 for me so I’d do that trade in a second…


Come on? How do we know if he'll be 100%, and rush thus becoming constantly injured. If the Chiefs still had Tyreek, I'd be fine with it because he can be let loose during the playoff run.

htismaqe 03-29-2022 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 16221495)
What he misses 3 or 4 games at the worst…? Come on.

Jameson Williams is going to be a superstar and easily WR1 for me so I’d do that trade in a second…

Pure speculation.

Even the optimists think it's going to take 8 months AT LEAST to rehab. Which means he misses AT LEAST half the season.

And when you consider he's not going to get the full offseason program, he might not contribute at all in year 1.

Furthermore, NO draftee is "going to be a superstar" especially not a guy that was injured so recently. Yes, he has a good chance to be great but it's not guaranteed AT ALL.

htismaqe 03-29-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16221432)
I’m not interested in trading a first and second for anyone in this draft, but I wouldn’t be mad if Veach did it, either.

This draft has depth at the exact positions we have short and long term need at.

I’d prefer if Veach let’s the star come to him.

If he wants to move up…please try to use next years third or 4th..or both.

We need all the picks this year.

There is nothing Veach could do that would make me mad. I trust him.

That being said, there's good ideas and bad ideas. Trading up like this is a BAD idea.


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