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O.city 08-15-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16413511)
Please God no

You hate winning too?

kcclone 08-15-2022 02:43 PM

An aging swing tackle might be better than anything we currently have.

That’s my biggest concern.

jjchieffan 08-15-2022 02:52 PM

I don't see a thread on it, maybe it's in another thread, but the Chiefs have cut 4 players, including WR Omar Bayless, CB Lonnie Johnson Jr., T Evin Ksiezarczyk, and WR Gary Jennings. Johnson surprised me. I thought that he had a decent shot and the last CB spot. Looks like our rookies are outperforming him already. Nice.

smithandrew051 08-15-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16413501)
Oooh! Trading away our draft picks! Now you're speaking O.Shitty's language!

I’d only be on board with something like the Melvin Ingram deal.

That was a 6th rounder for a player who was pretty good for us.

I wouldn’t want us to do anything crazy or make any splashes. I trust Veach with the picks.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16413488)
I don't think that's the case on camp cuts, right?

Depends on service time.

4 accrued seasons = released. Less than 4 accrued seasons = waived.

So if it's someone on their rookie deal that gets cut, that guy has to pass through waivers. If it's someone on a vet deal, that guy is a free agent.

As to the OP question - hard to say. Obviously my desire is at DE but I don't see anyone getting cut that's better than, say, Sheldon Richardson, JPP, Benson Mayowa or Tre Flowers. And those guys are all FAs still and we haven't brought them in. Just seems unlikely that DL help is on the way.

So the other option you mentioned already is RT. But Reid prefers continuity on his OL over all else. I just don't see any way he brings in a street FA guy to replace Wylie. And I don't think Christian has done anything to cost himself a roster spot in that role.

I'd be surprised if there are any additions to the 53 at this point. Maybe a RB after they cut Jones? Someone with a little more bulk who can run hard between the tackles? Jordan Wilkins would seem like a possibility and a similar but better version of Darrell Williams.

Maybe a CB? I'd be surprised if anybody worth a crap is cut loose, but the CB room sure looks like suddenly we'll have a 7th round pick on the roster. That's...different. WR? These guys never have seemed to be able to quit Sammy Watkins.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2022 03:00 PM

Clelin Ferrell is sounding more and more like a cut candidate but as noted previously, he hasn't accumulated 4 years of NFL service time so he'd need to clear waivers. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't take a chance on him. He has about a $5 million cap hit for any team that acquires him - that's a little stout for a reclamation project w/ no team control left after this season.

But I wonder if the Raiders couldn't at least direct the landing and deal him for a 7th instead of cutting him outright. Surely somebody would give up a pittance of a draft pick to take a flyer on a former top 5 pick.

Dante84 08-15-2022 03:18 PM

That WR #6 spot is open if Fountain, Powell, Gordon or Clements don't claim it. I'm not sure there's a guy we'd bring in this late to train up unless he has serious ST's value to add.

RT unfortunately isn't going to be solved by another team's roster cut. We'd have to explore a trade for someone like Jenkins or something like that, and I'm not sure Veach would find value in that motion. Wylie + Niang is likely where we live this year, but we've gotta solve that spot next offseason.

The #4 safety spot could be an area of focus, if they're not comfortable with what they've seen from Nazeeh Johnson (Rookie). If we suffer an injury or two there, we are exposed. We'd probably slide a CB to support in an emergency.

ToxSocks 08-15-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16413510)
I'd have said we should probably look into whoever the Buccaneers cut at WR .

We already did that though.

The Franchise 08-15-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16413619)
That WR #6 spot is open if Fountain, Powell, Gordon or Clements don't claim it. I'm not sure there's a guy we'd bring in this late to train up unless he has serious ST's value to add.

RT unfortunately isn't going to be solved by another team's roster cut. We'd have to explore a trade for someone like Jenkins or something like that, and I'm not sure Veach would find value in that motion. Wylie + Niang is likely where we live this year, but we've gotta solve that spot next offseason.

The #4 safety spot could be an area of focus, if they're not comfortable with what they've seen from Nazeeh Johnson (Rookie). If we suffer an injury or two there, we are exposed. We'd probably slide a CB to support in an emergency.

That 4th safety spot is already reserved for Deon Bush.

Dante84 08-15-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16413629)
That 4th safety spot is already reserved for Deon Bush.

Yep, completely forgot about him. Good call.


Man. Our roster is so deep with mid-high quality talent. There's literally only 1 or 2 spots on the 53 man roster that are "mid-poor."

And I'd be worried if the "mid" talents were all seasoned vets, but most are young with high upside that will learn & grow.

I said it in a different thread, but this could be the very beginning of an amazing run.

RunKC 08-15-2022 03:27 PM

A 5th corner would be nice for depth. Not sure I trust Watson just yet

DJ's left nut 08-15-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16413629)
That 4th safety spot is already reserved for Deon Bush.

Yup. And Bush is a real solid player. I can't imagine him getting dumped for a camp cut.

CB6 is about the only spot I see that isn't pretty firm. Even WR6 seems like it's about 80% likely to be Fountain.

Jaylen Watson as the last DB on the roster seems like about the only real risk of getting turfed for a veteran cast-off. And you may have more success getting him onto the PS after cut-downs since other teams will have set their own PS and final rosters.

Or again, RB4 could be up for grabs at this point as well should the Chiefs decide they want to take 4 into the regular season. But they may just decide that Burton can be their power back.

O.city 08-15-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16413565)
Depends on service time.

4 accrued seasons = released. Less than 4 accrued seasons = waived.

So if it's someone on their rookie deal that gets cut, that guy has to pass through waivers. If it's someone on a vet deal, that guy is a free agent.

As to the OP question - hard to say. Obviously my desire is at DE but I don't see anyone getting cut that's better than, say, Sheldon Richardson, JPP, Benson Mayowa or Tre Flowers. And those guys are all FAs still and we haven't brought them in. Just seems unlikely that DL help is on the way.

So the other option you mentioned already is RT. But Reid prefers continuity on his OL over all else. I just don't see any way he brings in a street FA guy to replace Wylie. And I don't think Christian has done anything to cost himself a roster spot in that role.

I'd be surprised if there are any additions to the 53 at this point. Maybe a RB after they cut Jones? Someone with a little more bulk who can run hard between the tackles? Jordan Wilkins would seem like a possibility and a similar but better version of Darrell Williams.

Maybe a CB? I'd be surprised if anybody worth a crap is cut loose, but the CB room sure looks like suddenly we'll have a 7th round pick on the roster. That's...different. WR? These guys never have seemed to be able to quit Sammy Watkins.

Really like if a speed rusher would shake out somewhere. Maybe a CB as you said.

O.city 08-15-2022 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16413640)
Yup. And Bush is a real solid player. I can't imagine him getting dumped for a camp cut.

CB6 is about the only spot I see that isn't pretty firm. Even WR6 seems like it's about 80% likely to be Fountain.

Jaylen Watson as the last DB on the roster seems like about the only real risk of getting turfed for a veteran cast-off. And you may have more success getting him onto the PS after cut-downs since other teams will have set their own PS and final rosters.

Or again, RB4 could be up for grabs at this point as well should the Chiefs decide they want to take 4 into the regular season. But they may just decide that Burton can be their power back.

I'd keep 3 and Burton

Any other you add is gonna be about as good as your practice squad guy at that point anyway.

DJ's left nut 08-15-2022 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16413637)
A 5th corner would be nice for depth. Not sure I trust Watson just yet

Gotta figure Lammons will be back. I really do hate that, though. Dude played 13 snaps on defense last year. These STs only guys just irritate the hell out of me.

You telling me you can't find a gunner that can actually PLAY?

Sure looks like 4 guys are locked in with Sneed, Fenton, McDuffie and some dude from a pisswater college in the Carolinas somewhere. Then Lammons gets his "Dave Toub Memorial Scrub Roster Spot". But like you, I don't trust Watson as a guy who will probably need to actually see the field next year and right now I think he's your 6th guy in.


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