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htismaqe 10-25-2022 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16554032)
See, I can't accept Wylie as a viable option at RT. He is a backup player and is mid on his best days. For me, he's the weakest link on the entire starting roster.

In this scenario, Wylie is the backup at both guard spots.

DJ's left nut 10-25-2022 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16554032)
See, I can't accept Wylie as a viable option at RT. He is a backup player and is mid on his best days. For me, he's the weakest link on the entire starting roster.

I'd say that's accurate.

He's there if the rookie can't get it done or if you take a gamble on a 2nd tier T who can't.

Now the issue is that if NEITHER of them can, you are in a world of shit because Wylie most assuredly cannot play LT.

Urc Burry 10-26-2022 07:35 AM

Veach has to be bummed about Niang. From sitting out the Covid year to not being about to stay healthy. Without knowing the guy and being around him it just doesn’t seem he has the drive. Because skill wise I think he could have locked up one side of the line for the future.


Next years FA class is a little disappointing on the top end. I would love to plug in Hargraves or Jordan Phillips next to CJ. But seeing the cap space, and the FA class I wonder if a trade for a player due for an extension is in the cards

RunKC 10-26-2022 07:54 AM

That cap space may dry up quickly depending on what they want to do.

Sneed, Gay, OBJ?, Thornhill, Juju, maybe Hardman.

Depends on their asking price

Direckshun 10-26-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16555106)
That cap space may dry up quickly depending on what they want to do.

Sneed, Gay, OBJ?, Thornhill, Juju, maybe Hardman.

Depends on their asking price

They're almost certainly going to pay JuJu and OBJ one way or another.

Hardman and Thornhill have replacements on the roster and could be overpaid on the free agent market.

They don't have to make any moves on Gay for another year, but they may want to act on Sneed now.

kccrow 10-26-2022 01:54 PM

On OBJ...

I absolutely hate him as the Chiefs' LT. Let's not get confused about that.

As for this "theory" that the Chiefs will just automatically receive a 3rd round comp pick by letting him walk, well let's not put the horse before the cart.

Most of you guys understand the cancellation process that works within the confines of the CFA process but let me just reiterate that we can't assume the Chiefs will get anything for OBJ if Veach decides to use the money to invest in a like-round CFA or if he signs an equal amount of CFAs to CFAs lost.

For those of you considering the Chiefs might look into signing a guy like Chubb as a free agent, you might want to rethink the guarantee of a comp pick.

With that said, the safest mechanism to ensure compensation for OBJ is a tag and trade scenario. The real question is whether or not Veach would employ it. Surely OBJ has round 3 value to someone, and might even have round 2 value to someone. Using the tag on OBJ at the onset will give Veach and Co time to evaluate the prospects a bit more and see where things sit for them as a team as well.

So, as much as I don't want to see OBJ ever play another down for KC beyond this season, I really do expect him to get the tag again and ... God willing... he gets traded.

CatfishBob2 10-26-2022 02:57 PM

If he can't get paid as an LT here does he really have a shot getting paid elsewhere? If not why not just embrace changing positions?

htismaqe 10-26-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16556115)
If he can't get paid as an LT here does he really have a shot getting paid elsewhere? If not why not just embrace changing positions?

Somebody will want him. He's not changing positions.

raybec 4 10-26-2022 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16555978)
On OBJ...

I absolutely hate him as the Chiefs' LT. Let's not get confused about that.

As for this "theory" that the Chiefs will just automatically receive a 3rd round comp pick by letting him walk, well let's not put the horse before the cart.

Most of you guys understand the cancellation process that works within the confines of the CFA process but let me just reiterate that we can't assume the Chiefs will get anything for OBJ if Veach decides to use the money to invest in a like-round CFA or if he signs an equal amount of CFAs to CFAs lost.

For those of you considering the Chiefs might look into signing a guy like Chubb as a free agent, you might want to rethink the guarantee of a comp pick.

With that said, the safest mechanism to ensure compensation for OBJ is a tag and trade scenario. The real question is whether or not Veach would employ it. Surely OBJ has round 3 value to someone, and might even have round 2 value to someone. Using the tag on OBJ at the onset will give Veach and Co time to evaluate the prospects a bit more and see where things sit for them as a team as well.

So, as much as I don't want to see OBJ ever play another down for KC beyond this season, I really do expect him to get the tag again and ... God willing... he gets traded.

That's actually what you're supposed to do.

kccrow 10-26-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16556248)
That's actually what you're supposed to do.

Hahaha, the synapses are running full bore over here.

I mean, the horse could get run over by the cart and all... :D

Direckshun 10-27-2022 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16556248)
That's actually what you're supposed to do.

LMAO

Toad 11-18-2022 04:30 PM

I kinda doubt he plays on the tag again next year.

Couch-Potato 11-19-2022 06:53 AM

Still wish we woulda scored Trent Williams!

If we tag OBJ we have to pay him $20m, is that correct? = 3rd/4th highest paid tackle = not a bad deal actually

Top paid LTs
https://overthecap.com/position/left-tackle

Direckshun 11-20-2022 07:02 PM

You’ve got that right. And I agree it’s a good deal for us.

Chris Meck 11-20-2022 10:44 PM

So many rookies playing on an 8-2 team.

The future is bright.


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