Might not always have a Top 5 defense either. That said, Allen is a million times better than Rivers. Stronger arm and extremely dangerous running the ball, plus he's very effective at scrambling to setup downfield throws. Rivers could not do either of those things with his legs.

LOL

steve young was smart enough to be an absolute top-shelf lawyer

josh allen came out of wyoming

gtfo of here with that comparison

Allen scored 37 on the Wonderlic test, which is higher than the likes of Steve Young, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, & Patrick Mahomes. The dude isn't some braindead dipshit like Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell.

Skill set wise, he absolutely is more like Steve Young...who was better than Phyllis Rivers...and Allen is better than Rivers. Young also barely got him a SB...which will be Allen's fate, if he even gets one at all.

In a league where Mahomes doesn’t exist, Allen would be the best QB.

Was that ever said of Rivers?

Rivers could also process the field a 1000 times better than Allen and was more accurate with deadly anticipation.

Allen has area code accuracy.

Honestly, I think Burrow is better.

Didn't Steve Young win multiple SBs? Why do I think he won 2 or 3?

Don't trust Wonderlic anymore. I think agents prepare them now, it's not the same as it was.

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Last couple of games I've been picking up a shellfish allergic version of Jameis Winston vibe.

Yeah, Steve Young won 3 SBs. And a huge pile of other NFL awards/achievements, including twice named NFL MVP.

Josh Allen has a very long way to go to be on the same level as Steve Young.

Josh Allen's running ability makes him better than Rivers if that's what we're doing here is comparing those two. Bring Mahomes into the mix and yea, he smokes both of them. It's really not even close. Mahomes could retire tomorrow and lets be honest you could argue he's hall of fame material.

So if we remove the first year for each player, this actually hurts Mahomes some (5000+ yds, 50 TD season)... here are the numbers:

# of Games Played for stat comparison:
Rivers: 64 games from 2007 - 2010
Allen: 58 games from 2019 - 2022
Mahomes: 55 from 2019 - 2022

Completion/Attempt/Comp%/Yards - per Game Average
Rivers: 19.73 / 30.70 / 64.27% / 251.95
Allen: 22.34 / 34.83 / 64.16% / 254.71
Mahomes: 25.27 / 38.11 / 66.32% / 300.84

TD/TD% per Att/Int/Int% per Att - per Game Average
Rivers: 1.77 TD / 5.75% per Att / .75 INT / 2.44% per Att
Allen: 1.95 TD / 5.59% per Att / .76 INT / 2.18% per Att
Mahomes: 2.29 TD / 6.01% per Att / .56 INT / 1.48% per Att

First Down %/Avg Rating/Avg QBR/Sacks/Sack Yds - per Game Average
Rivers: 40.20% / 98.53 Rating / 65.45 QBR / 1.72 sacks / 11.06 sk yds
Allen: 37.92% / 95.33 Rating / 65.25 QBR / 1.86 sacks / 11.26 sk yds
Mahomes: 42.22% / 104.53 Rating / 74.15 QBR / 1.51 sacks / 9.65 sk yds

Even after removing Allen's WORST season and arguably Mahomes' best season, it still proves the premise that Allen = Rivers (version 2.0)

Steve was on the bench for 2 of his rings. Montana won them. Steve was the starting QB for 1 ring.