Love it when people include the highlight reals in these draft threads!!!

I was talking with a friend last night, and I'm really torn between OL or DL in the first round. I wonder how much of OBJ and Wylie's struggles, I believe I heard a stat where they were both top 5 in pressures allowed, are due to Mahomes play style. Pat NEVER throws the ball away, compare that to when Alex Smith was our QB and passing the ball out of bounds was seemingly our most common play. Of course I want to protect Pat, a top tier OT would be an amazing addition, but I hate that we've never been able to get Chris Jones ANY real help along the DL. Jones is the #2 most double teamed defensive player in the league, holy hell, get him a giant NT that demands doubles next to him and a speed edge rusher and free him up to reek havoc.

Good plan Crow.
I believe you’ve nailed the “2 things are clear” aspect of the plan with OT’s and DL being priority. Heavy emphasis this off season MUST be on OT, DE and DT.

As alternative solutions:
For DE, I like Meck’s plan targeting Ngakoue and some another vet (he said JJ Watt) to spell and mentor Karlaftis.

For LT, I hope the team will try to tag and trade OBJ. I agree with you that if they don’t get a trade partner, they should rescind the tag and move on. Dillard would be a good stop gap for the high draft pick I hope they make.

Discount Kiper...pish posh.

So there are now almost 5 years of tape on Mahomes and in 2022 he is definitely getting rid of the ball sooner than he did in 2018. And he is certainly under more duress than he was in 18 or 19. But Fisher and Schwartz were better than OBJ and Wylie. I'll listen to an argument that teams now know how/how not to rush him, but the reality is Fisher and Schwartz were a lot better.

I don't really know what that means in terms of the draft. I don't think OBJ is worth the top of the market, but he is worth some money. If he'll sign for less, I think you try to work it out.

Same for Wylie. I think if you can keep him cheap, you keep him cheap and do a pick to try to upgrade. Maybe Kinnard can come around with a year being around professionals. :shrug:

I'd like to do better at both places but GODDAMN that's going to cost some resources, and I dunno if the return is there compared to a spot on the DL or WR or even a higher end TE.

Bottom line is I don't have any great ideas here, but Mahomes is "creating pressure on himself" less than he used to and the OL is performing worse than it used to.

You're always big on production per unit salary cap. If I'm looking at the offensive line, I also don't want that product to be negative plays. OBJj produces far more negative plays per unit salary cap than anyone at his position. Wylie produces what I'd call expected (far too many negative plays but the salary cap is also bottom of the barrel)

Sean Tucker and Jonathan Mingo look fantastic in this tape!

Sean Tucker is fantastic. I can't fathom he makes it outside the top 45. He's a guy that would seriously make you think twice if he's there at the bottom of the 2nd. I'm big on no RB before the 3rd but man if he isn't tailor-made for this offense similar to a young Shady.

Had Mingo in 3 in my Chris Jones trade mock. He's a solid player that I'm definitely getting higher on. Might boost him to a 2nd round guy. He seems like a DK Metcalf situation to me. He's big and he's fast and he didn't produce nearly as much as he probably should have but he just might bust out in the NFL.

Tucker reminds me a lot of Travis Etienne.

Somewhere, there's a universe where Etienne came out of the draft a year early like expected and was the Chiefs' pick at 32 and we're all happy about it.

As someone who watched a lot of Etienne this year because of fantasy…. Waita ruin my day by putting that scenario in my head haha.

Tucker does look electric, but i don’t know a whole lot about him. How does he hold up in pass pro? Because it seems to me like Reid values that just as much as the receiving element. McKinnon is seriously elite in it. Not even for just his size. Like it is mind blowing to watch. And that’s going to be hard to replace

Also just watched a Mingo highlight.. if you watched it on mute you might think you’re watching AJ Brown

Re: Mingo… or if he doesn’t have enough speed to stack guys in re NFL and get deep, he’s awful JJSS like.

Mingo's production isn't crazy. I assumed he was just a novelty player, big and tall, but he makes some really incredible catches and has great hands.

NFL Draft Buzz has Tucker as their #9 RB, I've seen him mocked to our Chiefs in the 4th but I agree he looks very solid. If we were in need of a replacement, by chance, for McKinnon then I'd definitely look for him in the draft but would prefer the 4th round or later if he falls.

9th? That's interesting.

I think draftek does as well but their rankings are always pretty shit. They are a nice resource for prospect names though.

The worst I see him is 5th. Robinson, Gibbs, Achane, and Brown are the only guys I could see ahead of him. I'd take him over Achane though. Robinson is a horse. Gibbs is Alvin Kamara 2.0. Brown and Tucker a really similar but I think Brown is a bit more shifty.

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