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BossChief 12-26-2022 11:10 AM

Opposing playoff defenses should be legit terrified at what they’re going to need to prepare for. Andy is basically not allowing there to be ANY tape on what this offense will look like come playoff time.

Adding Hardman and Toney to this offense and not being able to prepare for it will be terrifying.

Jewish Rabbi 12-26-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16689601)
Opposing playoff defenses should be legit terrified at what they’re going to need to prepare for. Andy is basically not allowing there to be ANY tape on what this offense will look like come playoff time.

Adding Hardman and Toney to this offense and not being able to prepare for it will be terrifying.

We say that every year and every year it’s the same ****ing offense in the playoffs except that twirly Rose Bowl parade. Stop fooling yourself into thinking some new wrinkle is going to appear in the playoffs that teams are completely unprepared for.

ThaVirus 12-26-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16689611)
We say that every year and every year it’s the same ****ing offense in the playoffs except that twirly Rose Bowl parade. Stop fooling yourself into thinking some new wrinkle is going to appear in the playoffs that teams are completely unprepared for.


Hah, true enough.

Our playoff offense is incredible, though, generally speaking. I'm not going to look into it right now but I think we average 30+ PPG under Mahomes in the postseason.

Valiant 12-26-2022 11:20 AM

I wanted hardman to be the guy. He just doesn't have it. I don't know if it is just mental or him not putting in the work. Juju seemed to adjust to what mahomes wants after about 8 games. Toney seems to be getting it as well.

Hardman been here forever and hasn't got it. He had Tyreek and Kelce both as instructors.

scho63 12-26-2022 11:22 AM

Hardman is a better version of D-Rob.

Just hasn't delivered anywhere near expectations.

scho63 12-26-2022 11:23 AM

On the topic of WR, I Hope Justin Watson is gone after this year.

Guy started off hot and has gone in a coma.

Hoover 12-26-2022 11:33 AM

I'd rather pay Hardman than MVS

BWillie 12-26-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16689623)
On the topic of WR, I Hope Justin Watson is gone after this year.

Guy started off hot and has gone in a coma.

Gritty.
Student of the game.
Watches film.
Scrappy.
Hard-nosed.
Gym rat.
Deceptively fast.
High motor.
Glue guy.
Cerebral.
Coach on the field.
Lunch pail guy.
Heady.
Coaches son.

MahomesMagic 12-26-2022 11:41 AM

Hardman is a JAG WR but an elite gadget player.

wazu 12-26-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16689640)
Hardman is a JAG WR but an elite gadget player.

Disagree that he’s elite as a gadget player. I don’t even think he’s the best gadget player on his own team. (Toney)

I’m looking forward to Hardman’s return about as much as I’m looking forward to Clyde’s.

Rain Man 12-26-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16689633)
I'd rather pay Hardman than MVS

Yeah. Hardman is the 2nd-best WR on the team, though I'm not yet ranking Toney due to a small sample size so far.

Hoover 12-26-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16689722)
Yeah. Hardman is the 2nd-best WR on the team, though I'm not yet ranking Toney due to a small sample size so far.

Fair. And that's where I'm at. I think Toney has unlimited potential. Just needs to stay on the field.

stevieray 12-26-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16689635)
Gritty.
Student of the game.
Watches film.
Scrappy.
Hard-nosed.
Gym rat.
Deceptively fast.
High motor.
Glue guy.
Cerebral.
Coach on the field.
Lunch pail guy.
Heady.
Coaches son.

^slurs for white players^

chiefzilla1501 12-26-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16689661)
Disagree that he’s elite as a gadget player. I don’t even think he’s the best gadget player on his own team. (Toney)

I’m looking forward to Hardman’s return about as much as I’m looking forward to Clyde’s.

They are explosive in different ways. Hardman isn’t as shifty as Toney but man his acceleration is off the charts. That makes him an especially dangerous option going into motion and on jet sweeps. And it still makes him a home run option. Ideally they can relegate him to a role where they just use him in spots because he doesn’t do much otherwise. Although the inconsistency of Mvs makes me wonder if he’s any better than hardman as our deep option.

I still like Toney better for the quick hitches because he’s way more maneuverable in short spaces which is what we’ve desperately needed vs teams like cincy

Hoover 12-26-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16689746)
^slurs for white players^

Correct


If the guy was WR 5 or 6, then whatever. But he's getting like 75 percent of the snaps which is ****ing crazy.


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