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Hammock Parties 12-29-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16694220)
Great accomplishment for sure, but “dynasty” requires 3+ Super Bowls in a short span. Not winning regular season games.

you are but a footnote on the greatness of patrick mahomes

and you know it you ****ing bitch!

Gary Cooper 12-29-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16694220)
Great accomplishment for sure, but “dynasty” requires 3+ Super Bowls in a short span. Not winning regular season games.

That would eliminate all but the Patriots, Steelers, and Cowboys.

Even Joe Montana didn't win three Super Bowls in a short span; his wins were spread over the decade. I don't necessarily disagree with that outlook but it's hard to see anyone winning three or four Super Bowls in 5 or 6 years.

DJ's left nut 12-29-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16694250)
That would eliminate all but the Patriots, Steelers, and Cowboys.

Even Joe Montana didn't win three Super Bowls in a short span; his wins were spread over the decade. I don't necessarily disagree with that outlook but it's hard to see anyone winning three or four Super Bowls in 5 or 6 years.

I think dynasties are defined by decades.

And every decade has one.

60s: Packers
70s: Steelers
80s: 49ers
90s: Cowboys
2010s: Patriots
20teens: {sigh} the ****ing Patriots

The 2020s are there for the taking for the Chiefs. But I think you need 3 SBs in a 10 year(ish) span to be a dynasty.

Bottom line is you just can't hold anyone to the Patriots standard. That team blew the curve something awful. By any other reasonable standard, the Chiefs can absolutely set themselves up as the next NFL dynasty.

But they gotta win a couple more rings to get there. If they don't, someone will. We'll be sitting there in 2031 with Mahomes in his mid 30s wondering how the hell the Bengals won 3 of the last 5 or something equally shitty.

The Chiefs have the ability to control their own narrative here. They just have to go do it.

Kman34 12-29-2022 11:11 AM

Broncos fire their coach, Raiders bench their QB… All we worry about is a holder not spinning the laces right on kicks and if we make it to 14 wins.. We are jolly red giants stomping our way across the AFCW boys…

MahomesIsTheMVP 12-29-2022 01:36 PM

It’s the makings of a dynasty.

Wallcrawler 12-29-2022 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16694229)
Why asterisk statistics? Why is 16 games considered the standard for statistics?

The 43 years of football based on a 16 game season?

Gary Cooper 12-29-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16694291)
I think dynasties are defined by decades.

And every decade has one.

60s: Packers
70s: Steelers
80s: 49ers
90s: Cowboys
2010s: Patriots
20teens: {sigh} the ****ing Patriots

The 2020s are there for the taking for the Chiefs. But I think you need 3 SBs in a 10 year(ish) span to be a dynasty.

Bottom line is you just can't hold anyone to the Patriots standard. That team blew the curve something awful. By any other reasonable standard, the Chiefs can absolutely set themselves up as the next NFL dynasty.

But they gotta win a couple more rings to get there. If they don't, someone will. We'll be sitting there in 2031 with Mahomes in his mid 30s wondering how the hell the Bengals won 3 of the last 5 or something equally shitty.

The Chiefs have the ability to control their own narrative here. They just have to go do it.

If only the Chiefs didn't shit the bed against Tampa/Cincinnati in those playoff games. That said, every "almost" dynasty had losses like that in the surrounding years.

Best22 12-29-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16694765)
If only the Chiefs didn't shit the bed against Tampa/Cincinnati in those playoff games. That said, every "almost" dynasty had losses like that in the surrounding years.

Tampa brought a better, more focused team to the SB

If we could’ve brought our Week 15 team to the SB it would’ve been competitive, but that’s not what happened

RealSNR 12-29-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16694291)
I think dynasties are defined by decades.

And every decade has one.

60s: Packers
70s: Steelers
80s: 49ers
90s: Cowboys
2010s: Patriots
20teens: {sigh} the ****ing Patriots

The 2020s are there for the taking for the Chiefs. But I think you need 3 SBs in a 10 year(ish) span to be a dynasty.

Bottom line is you just can't hold anyone to the Patriots standard. That team blew the curve something awful. By any other reasonable standard, the Chiefs can absolutely set themselves up as the next NFL dynasty.

But they gotta win a couple more rings to get there. If they don't, someone will. We'll be sitting there in 2031 with Mahomes in his mid 30s wondering how the hell the Bengals won 3 of the last 5 or something equally shitty.

The Chiefs have the ability to control their own narrative here. They just have to go do it.

I'm still skeptical that the Brown family won't go ****ing cheapskate shitshow and ruin a good thing he has going once Burrow starts to make real money.

It's all sunshine and daisies right now. Let's see if his GM gets creative and manages to keep most of that talent on offense, and if the owner signs off on it.

Thus far the answer has been no.

rfaulk34 12-29-2022 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16694920)
I'm still skeptical that the Brown family won't go ****ing cheapskate shitshow and ruin a good thing he has going once Burrow starts to make real money.

It's all sunshine and daisies right now. Let's see if his GM gets creative and manages to keep most of that talent on offense, and if the owner signs off on it.

Thus far the answer has been no.

Since Taylor has been here, the way they operate has done a 180. Mike Brown is more hands off right now. Plus, dude is in his 80s. Cant live forever...

The true test of whether those that are in control now can keep a contender will indeed be when Burrow gets paid, followed by Chase.

TwistedChief 12-29-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 16695053)
Since Taylor has been here, the way they operate has done a 180. Mike Brown is more hands off right now. Plus, dude is in his 80s. Cant live forever...

The true test of whether those that are in control now can keep a contender will indeed be when Burrow gets paid, followed by Chase.

As Chiefs fans, we very much look forward to your team-building when you're approaching 100mm allotted to those two.

Halfcan 12-29-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16694220)
Great accomplishment for sure, but “dynasty” requires 3+ Super Bowls in a short span. Not winning regular season games.

What do Bills fans know about winning Superbowls?

crispystl 12-29-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16694220)
Great accomplishment for sure, but “dynasty” requires 3+ Super Bowls in a short span. Not winning regular season games.


What about losing four consecutive super bowls? How does that shake out dynasty-wise?


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tredadda 12-30-2022 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16694666)
The 43 years of football based on a 16 game season?

Ok. Now when do we start acknowledging 17 game stats? 17 game seasons are not going away. When is the cutoff? Also the rules have been skewed to favor offenses, do we now asterisk any records created during that time?

tredadda 12-30-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 16695053)
Since Taylor has been here, the way they operate has done a 180. Mike Brown is more hands off right now. Plus, dude is in his 80s. Cant live forever...

The true test of whether those that are in control now can keep a contender will indeed be when Burrow gets paid, followed by Chase.

It’s going to come down to how well your team drafts now that they are not getting Top 10 picks anymore. The key to winning with a franchise QB on contract #2 or later is to surround him with cheap, talented players and more often than not you do that in the draft. It’s very easy to look like a genius when you draft high, it’s much harder when you draft later in each round. Players like Burrow and Chase are long gone by then.


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