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Wilson8 01-03-2023 02:49 PM

Glad to see this trade happen.

I think this is a win for the Royals, a win for the Orioles, and a win for Ryan O'Hearn.

Royals no longer have to pay Ryan $1.4M, plus they received some cash.

Orioles receive a left-handed bat and with the shift gone and Camden Yards shorter dimensions, he could help the team.

A new start for Ryan O'Hearn might help him.

Wilson8 01-03-2023 02:57 PM

Jan. 3: 1B/OF Ryan O'Hearn acquired from Royals for cash considerations
The Orioles have been seeking a left-handed hitter who can back up Ryan Mountcastle at first base, and O'Hearn could fill that role (in addition to possibly getting some playing time in the corner outfield). The 29-year-old spent his first five big league seasons with the Royals, who designated him for assignment on Dec. 28. O'Hearn batted .239/.290/.321 with one homer and 16 RBIs in 67 games for Kansas City in 2022.

https://www.mlb.com/news/orioles-inj...d-roster-moves

BWillie 01-03-2023 05:18 PM

I think Ryan O Hearn will have his best year on record..but I don't want it to be here.

tk13 01-03-2023 05:44 PM

That's a great fit of a ballpark for him. They moved out the LF fence so it's not a bandbox anymore but the RF field is still really short.

Chiefspants 01-03-2023 05:46 PM

It also means the Cubs must be the frontrunners in the Hos sweepstakes.

PurpleJesus28 01-03-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16707497)
It also means the Cubs must be the frontrunners in the Hos sweepstakes.

Do the Padres still owe him what was left on his contract ? I'm just curious how all that goes down,i didnt think Boston had to pay any of that.

duncan_idaho 01-03-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleJesus28 (Post 16707512)
Do the Padres still owe him what was left on his contract ? I'm just curious how all that goes down,i didnt think Boston had to pay any of that.


Padres are on the hook for everything minus whatever his new team pays him.

Prison Bitch 01-03-2023 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16707557)
Padres are on the hook for everything minus whatever his new team pays him.

Right. We can pay league min to The Hoz or 1.4 to ROH

Let’s hire the TB front office or Cleve

Prison Bitch 01-03-2023 11:15 PM

Time for Jon E Qweddo. Eat some innings

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...QXywaXCse4ayDY

BWillie 01-04-2023 03:24 AM

is johnny cueto a borderline hall of famer? He gotta be close

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-04-2023 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16708418)
is johnny cueto a borderline hall of famer? He gotta be close

Got you covered on that question Bwillie - the answer is no.

There is actually a useful stat for this, called JAWS:

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The JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score system) was developed by sabermetrician Jay Jaffe — first at Baseball Prospectus in 2004 — as a means to measure a player's Hall of Fame worthiness by comparing him to the players at his position who are already enshrined, using advanced metrics to account for the wide variations in offensive levels that have occurred throughout the game's history.

A player's JAWS is his career WAR averaged with his 7-year peak WAR (not necessarily consecutive years).
Here is that leaderboard. Take a look at Cueto at 225th all time, and how many pitchers had a higher JAWS score that wouldn't get in. Amongst active players, he is behind John Lackey (33.3), Bumgarner (34.2), Corey Kluber (34.8), David Price (35.8), Jon Lester (38.8), Adam Wainwright (41.4)....guys like Chris Sale, Scherzer, Kershaw and De Grom are above all them.

The lowest JAWS score of any hall of fame SP was Ray Brown with 34.7, then Candy Cummings with 36.2. There are only four others in history at 38.0 or below. You really gotta have over 50.0 to be a legit HOF candidate, but Curt Schilling put up 64.0 and didn't get in. That's the highest JAWS score for a SP to not get in.

The average JAWS score of the 66 SP Hall of Famers is 61.4, which probably best illustrates where Cueto stands (his is 30.0)

One guy that will get in is Zack Grieinke, 32nd all time with a JAWS of 62.5, just above Tom Glavine (62.4) and just below Clayton Kershaw (62.8).

Cueto has a case for hall of very good, but he ain't no Candy Cummings. You gotta at least be a Candy Cummings to be a real HOF candidate.

duncan_idaho 01-04-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16708316)
Right. We can pay league min to The Hoz or 1.4 to ROH

Let’s hire the TB front office or Cleve

I believe Baltimore is now on the hook for all of that $1.4M for O'Hearn. So the Royals actually ended up paying $0 for him.

If this was the plan all along - make that deal so they can trade him - it is more understandable. I guess.

Wilson8 01-04-2023 02:14 PM

January 4: Hosmer and the Cubs are now in agreement, per Jesse Rogers of ESPN.

poolboy 01-04-2023 02:39 PM

I dont get why they signed him to trade him, for cash?

Wilson8 01-04-2023 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16709552)
I dont get why they signed him to trade him, for cash?

I am guessing that the Royals knew that a team like the Orioles could see some value in Ryan O'Hearn. They may have even talked about a possible trade before the Royals signed him to the $1.4 one-year contract. I could not find what cash the Royals received, but probably not that much. The Orioles have a player that might help them. The Royals might have received $25,000 in cash.

From Spotrac.com - https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/baltimore-orioles/payroll/
Baltimore Orioles
Ryan O'Hearn 29 1B Arb 2 1 $1,400,000
So Orioles are paying Ryan the entire $1.4M


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