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Kiimo 01-08-2023 04:46 PM

Watson for me.

You leave Wilson alone with your teenage daughter the biggest threat is him trying to rap to her about the dangers of premarital sex.

Eleazar 01-08-2023 04:46 PM

Watson is worse, they gave up more than 3 first round picks, AND his whole deal is fully guaranteed.

And people with his sort of off the field issues don’t just knock it off. They are what they are.

TwistedChief 01-08-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16722700)
I'll say, it's taking Watson long enough. Guy acts like he's only had 4 months of prep to get ready to play, and he's still ass. Not like he doesn't have a top-10 defense, a top-5 OL, a top-3 rushing attack, and a top-5 receiving corps.

Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.

Chris Meck 01-08-2023 04:47 PM

I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.

Eleazar 01-08-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16722774)
I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.

Yeah. The cost to the organization in local goodwill, pride, and team identification will have a broad impact.

srvy 01-08-2023 04:50 PM

Don't turn your back to Dak. His suckage is kinda being overlooked.

Rainbarrel 01-08-2023 04:53 PM

If I am decent HC material. I take the factory of sadness over donner pass

Megatron96 01-08-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16722771)
Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.

i don't know exactly where they rank, but they have Amari Cooper, true WR1 (thought to be a top 3 WR just a season or two ago), David Njoku (top-15 TE), Chubb/Hunt out of the backfield, and DPJ is apparently having a JJSS type of season. That's top-10-15 at least? it's a pretty good receiving group regardless.

HemiEd 01-08-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 16722619)
its tough and i picked watson, but the watson trade does have a slightly better chance of turning out ok for cleveland whereas denver is inarguably ****ed for a decade

Well said, and I think they were both awesome trades for my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!ROFL

Chris Meck 01-08-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 16722782)
If I am decent HC material. I take the factory of sadness over donner pass

**** that. Either is a death sentence. I'll go coach Eastern Uganda State.

frozenchief 01-08-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16722623)
Both equally bad, but Wilson is worse only because Watson is a few years younger and it’s still possible that he might improve, although I highly doubt it. Nobody gets better by going to Cleveland.

This. You wonder if Watson is this bad because he’s rusty and needs time to get ready. Given his age and his time off, I think the odds of Watson improving are better than the odds of Wilson improving, although not by a great deal. Thus, I’d have to say the Wilson trade is a worse trade. But again, this the difference is not much.

Cleveland has always been a shot show. Can’t say I’m surprised at what they did. Denver, though, Denver has been a pretty well run franchise. I’m surprised they screwed up this badly.

dlphg9 01-08-2023 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16722774)
I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.

I am definitely not one of those people that think Watson is elite. I even made a thread about it like 2 years ago.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=334613

DrunkBassGuitar 01-08-2023 05:15 PM

both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck

Kiimo 01-08-2023 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16722851)
both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck

I mean the AFCN isn't much easier

jettio 01-08-2023 05:19 PM

If Denver had a coach that knew how to run a training camp and practice, Wilson would have been solid this year.

Once you saw week 1 versus Seattle and the next two Bronco games, you could just tell it was like they were not prepared.

If Denver gets a coach that know how to prepare a team, I think Wilson will be decent, but not elite.

Both of those trades and long term deals are bad.


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