That play will probably be called Snowglobe 13 rocketbomb 19...it takes 13 seconds to run it for a TD. Saving it for the AFC Championship game.

And every variation in between.

I said a few weeks ago that I had a theory about 13P, and it looks like it's finally becoming a thing.

Basically, my thought was that from this package, not only could you mix and match players, but you could go into a hurry-up and never have to sub packages of players in and out, because you can run or pass so effectively from EZ to EZ from it. And defenses would have to pretty much guess what Andy was going to do from snap to snap. DCs couldn't simply look at the personnel grouping/formation and call a pass-/run- centric defense. And once in the RZ, having three TEs/big WRs or whatever (FB?) forces the defense to almost straight guess.

The only real issue, from a traditional standpoint, is that the package tends to condense things between the numbers/hashes. But this is Andy we're talking about; you know he's going to modify things, use motion, etc., to spread the defense out horizontally. He could get the DC to send in a base or heavy defense call/personnel package, and then spread Fortson, for example, out to the X, Maybe do the same with Pacheco/McKinnon or whoever, and draw two LBs out past the numbers, creating isolated bad matchups for the defense, and leaving one or no LB in the middle, while simultaneously creating a light box.
And so on.

it's just a theory, but there's plenty of potential.

There's something I'm missing in it because it seems damn near impossible to stop to my eyes.

Against something like cover 4 it's pretty easily beaten because you're really left with little more than a high risk throw to Fortson or low probability to throw on the out to Bell.

But it seems like it would be awfully nasty vs. 'conventional' coverages.

What might be fun would be to put Toney in the backfield with Hardman on the vert. They still have to respect the jet motion given what Toney has done on his carries. Then instead of running the deep cross, you have him run a whip route w/ Kelce running more of a skinny post.

But now I've gone crosseyed.

In either event, if you can get a burner isolated out there in that 13 grouping, there's gotta be a way to get him isolated and with Hardman's raw speed or Toney's ball skills, there are some ways to make that damn dangerous.

Gray and Kelce can both play as 'move' TEs. Hell, so can a healthy Fortson for that matter (though he's shockingly stiff for a converted WR).

So if you feel like defenses are bunching the middle of the field too much, you can take either of those guys off the end of the line and get them spread out a tick more.

And they're going to have to call their personnel packages based on our huddle, not our formation. So if we line up 3 TEs, they're unlikely to be out there in a Nickel. At that point, you can use those athletic TEs to motion out. And if they come out in a lighter defensive grouping, you just keep them in-line and either play bully ball with short passes or run it at them.

It's a really fascinating set of options.

Yep. As multiple as Andy likes to be, he could easily have JJSS in there as a 'TE,' Fortson in there as almost anything from the X/Y/Z . . . nearly any combination Andy can imagine.

If you've got JJSS in there at TE, you're just running simple 12 personnel though.

I don't think that's gonna jink a DC into sending out a heavy personnel group.

I think the idea is to put that extra TE into the huddle to make DCs lean towards keeping an extra LBer on the field. If they see 2 WRs and 2 TEs in the huddle, especially if one of them is Gray, they're probably still gonna run a Nickel at us.

I want them in base. I think 13 does that.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that specifically. Was merely using him as an example of how Andy could use JJSS in 13P as a 'TE', since he's the 'hybrid' on the team more than anyone else; then kind of jumped mid-stream to the heavy thing.

My main point is that Andy won't be constrained at all by whatever is 'traditional' from the package; he'll tinker with it and produce all kinds of off-the-wall formations/plays. So, as an extreme/unlikely example, he could bring in Toney/Skyy as a 'TE' if he thought he could take advantage of that somehow.

I mean, probably there's dozens of possible mods Andy could come up with, though a lot of them probably wouldn't actually be useful. It's fun to speculate what we might see though.

Invariably my old madden 'create a play' attempts ended with "**** this, I'm running the option..."

So yeah - I suspect Andy's got a lot more tricks up his sleeve than I'm gonna come up with.

This is brilliant. It puts defenses somewhere between a rock and a hard place. The biggest thing is the Chiefs have shown they can roast you out of this heavy package and will likely only get better at it, it's fairly new. Pure genius.

Shhhh that's for playoffs

Fingers crossed.

"Do we have time to run Rocketbomb?"

Yeah, it checks out...

Not sure if this is related to or even run out of this particular set because I don’t get a chance to watch the all 22 but:

In the last several weeks (4), the Chiefs have run a pass play that involves one TE engaging a DL for 1.5/2.0 seconds. Then breaking away into the flat or simply turning and this becoming a TE screen.

The Bengals used this against last season in mid to short yardage, and our D would drop just far enough that, upon completion, the first down was an easy take.

The opportunities out of this set seem vast. Maybe Andy is running it now, so defenses pick up on it and in game he’ll “Rocketbomb”, but it’s an effective short yardage set for sure.

I've been saying it. I think they're sandbagging the run game boys. I bet we see them unleash it in the playoffs.

Speaking of All-22, anyone notice that NFL+ took down all of the 2022 season games last night?

I haven't checked today, maybe it was a technical difficulty. But i went to watch the All-22 For the Chiefs/Raiders last night and NOTHING was there. Only the 2021 season.

Y'know we averaged 25 carries/gm this season, right? 20 times/gm when you remove scrambles and jet sweeps from the list (though you could just as easily ADD those pop passes to offset many/most of those).

Fellas - we ain't gonna go ground and pound in the playoffs. Nor should we.

If we run the ball more in the playoffs it'll be to run out the clock. It won't be the primary component of a team being led by the most efficient QB in NFL post-season history.

Our quarterback averages 307 and 3 scores in 11 career playoff games. He's going to be the runaway MVP this season and his average game this season is almost identical to his average post-season game.

Maybe "Hey now we'll beat 'em with the run!" isn't the best idea...