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DRM08 01-30-2023 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16780125)
The list of QBs in the HOF roughly from the Super Bowl era that don't have 10 playoff wins is:

Starr, Warner, Kelly - 9
Marino - 8
Griese, Stabler - 7
Tarkenton - 6
Dawson - 5
Fouts - 3
Moon - 3
Namath - 2

That's a list of good QBs, but I don't think anyone on this list should be mentioned in the same category of greatness as anyone on the list in the OP.
One surprising thing is Buffalo "only" had 9 playoff wins during Jim Kelly's career. You would think a team that went to 4 straight Super Bowls would end up with more than 9 playoff wins.

Eleazar 01-31-2023 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16780127)
One surprising thing is Buffalo "only" had 9 playoff wins during Jim Kelly's career. You would think a team that went to 4 straight Super Bowls would end up with more than 9 playoff wins.
This is probably a little harsh on Jim Kelly, because he was injured for the first 2 playoff games in 1993 which the Bills won with Frank Reich at QB. You'd guess he would have 11 wins otherwise.

straycash 01-31-2023 12:25 AM
.. Not another TB thread, there will never be another football player as lucky as him again.

jerryaldini 01-31-2023 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16780127)
One surprising thing is Buffalo "only" had 9 playoff wins during Jim Kelly's career. You would think a team that went to 4 straight Super Bowls would end up with more than 9 playoff wins.
Tarkenton is another like that. Went to three in four years, yet only has six wins. Lost all three and never won a playoff game outside those years.

DRM08 01-31-2023 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16780153)
Tarkenton is another like that. Went to three in four years, yet only has six wins. Lost all three and never won a playoff game outside those years.
Tarkenton was a hell of a player. Fran had that magical scrambling ability. I like to think Mahomes is an evolved version of him.

RetiredSeniorChief 01-31-2023 01:07 AM
He will have 11 wins by age 27,

jerryaldini 01-31-2023 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16780157)
Tarkenton was a hell of a player. Fran had that magical scrambling ability. I like to think Mahomes is an evolved version of him.
And a taller one! First time I saw Mahomes play I thought of Tarkenton. Same ability to extend plays outside the pocket, but without the arm talent. Loved those Viking teams with the Eller/Page/Krause defense, the great Chuck Foreman at RB and of course Bud Grant in short sleeves in 20 degree weather.

kccrow 01-31-2023 03:30 AM
And behind most of those QBs was an outstanding defense.

straycash 01-31-2023 03:38 AM
outstanding defense is not needed in todays NFL, also, now it's a landscape of pie without the cream

ChiTown 01-31-2023 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by straycash (Post 16780206)
outstanding defense is not needed in todays NFL, also, now it's a landscape of pie without the cream
Wat?

Eleazar 01-31-2023 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16780153)
Tarkenton is another like that. Went to three in four years, yet only has six wins. Lost all three and never won a playoff game outside those years.
What I like about playoff wins is that it doesn't measure talent, it measures accomplishment.

straycash 01-31-2023 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16780328)
Wat?
what* what?

scho63 01-31-2023 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16780112)
the undisputed king of playoff QBs right here folks

highest winning percentage in postseason history among QBs with at least 10 starts

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...M0fBc&usqp=CAU
When I was younger people said I looked like him. ROFL

DrunkBassGuitar 01-31-2023 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by straycash (Post 16780206)
outstanding defense is not needed in todays NFL, also, now it's a landscape of pie without the cream
Mahomes is going to cream pie the Eagles

Direckshun 01-31-2023 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16780103)
Marino was a playoff choker.

Mahomes would NEVER go out 62-7.

Look at some of these stinkers.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/post/

77 career QB rating in the playoffs.

17-43? LMAO
To be fair to Marino, Mahomes has a QB rating of 60 across two Super Bowls.

It's a team sport.


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