Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16806956)

Yes it was marginal hold.. BUT.. there are so many things that can be said in argument:

• It technically WAS a hold.
• the guy that committed the hold even said so
• bolton had a TD taken away, that seemed like it wasnt clear it shoudlve been. He had two feet down. he made a football move. not sure about a "3rd step" but he pivited and made a move. to me its a fumble.
• how many delays of game by them went uncalled? I counted about 3
• they dove at mahomes ankle every chance they got
• there was a spearing play where they hit pacheco in the chest with their helmet that couldve been called but wasnt
• if you let a single penatly decide the game, you didnt do enough to win

etc

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16806975)

I'm fine with this

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16806915)

I'm disinclined to argue with any of these schmucks over the holding call that was a hold.

The bottom line is that WE have the black hat now. We're the villains. This is the kind of mess we're going to hear about every time this team succeeds.

ENJOY IT! Embrace it. Revel in it and **** the rest of 'em.

"Never forget what you are - wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you."

This is gonna be a blast, fellas. Every bit of annoying talking head bullshit we've seen for 4 years is going to be amplified. Every single time we lose it will be because X quarterback is the best in the league or Y team has finally come to knock the Chiefs off their perch.

This is the role we've always wanted to play so why fight it now that we have it? This is it. When the league folds and the only evidence it ever existed is Profootballreference and a pack of geriatric assholes with giant hogs and goatees on some rusty old website called ChiefsPlanet, the history will be written and this will be the golden age of Chiefs football. Don't apologize for a bit of it.

Because this shit is awesome.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16806915)

I'm disinclined to argue with any of these schmucks over the holding call that was a hold.

The bottom line is that WE have the black hat now. We're the villains. This is the kind of mess we're going to hear about every time this team succeeds.

ENJOY IT! Embrace it. Revel in it and **** the rest of 'em.

"Never forget what you are - wear it like armor and it can never be used to hurt you."

This is gonna be a blast, fellas. Every bit of annoying talking head bullshit we've seen for 4 years is going to be amplified. Every single time we lose it will be because X quarterback is the best in the league or Y team has finally come to knock the Chiefs off their perch.

This is the role we've always wanted to play so why fight it now that we have it? This is it. When the league folds and the only evidence it ever existed is Profootballreference and a pack of geriatric assholes with giant hogs and goatees on some rusty old website called ChiefsPlanet, the history will be written and this will be the golden age of Chiefs football. Don't apologize for a bit of it.

Because this shit is awesome.

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16806956)

Yes it was marginal hold.. BUT.. there are so many things that can be said in argument:

• It technically WAS a hold.
• the guy that committed the hold even said so
• bolton had a TD taken away, that seemed like it wasnt clear it shoudlve been. He had two feet down. he made a football move. not sure about a "3rd step" but he pivited and made a move. to me its a fumble.
• how many delays of game by them went uncalled? I counted about 3
• they dove at mahomes ankle every chance they got
• there was a spearing play where they hit pacheco in the chest with their helmet that couldve been called but wasnt
• if you let a single penatly decide the game, you didnt do enough to win

etc

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16806962)

All of the corpses left behind in our wake.

That's who dislikes us.

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16806971)

Oh, and Brown pushed Hurts in the back for a TD on the sneak. Is that not a penalty? Yes. Was it called? No.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16806986)

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16807016)

We have equaled the Donx/Raiders in SB victories .

We have the highest SB winning % in the division. Also, I waited 42 1/2 years for revenge for the 1980 World Series.

I didn’t care then, and I don’t now, nor will I care in the future about flags, non flags,Carl Cheffers, QB arguments, or what the talking heads say. That’s for the loser fans of this site

After Gunther bungled the 2000 AFC west title, I vowed to not return to Arrowhead until this team drafted a QB. Finally I went back opening day of 2017 when we played the Eagles and Pat sat on the bench.

It’s all complete for me. Whatever the franchise does now, is just a cherry on top.