Yes, forgot about him. Those 4, along with White and Van Ness, should all be in the conversation since it's very early.

Although it doesn't sound like White and Van Ness will be in our range when it's all said and done.

Maybe that pushes Myles Murphy down to our range though.

Hall looks like the more complete player now, Ojulari seems to have better upside. Either guy would be fantastic.

Watched a lot of tape on Hall the past couple of days and he screams like a solid dependable starter. A Nick Bolton level of dependability in the edge position. Eye test tells me he is a safe and very good value pick at 31.

I respect that information.

Here's the truth, though. Both of the guys in the OP play much, much smaller than Clark. Clark plays bigger, his style is different.

It's important when we take these guys that we're swimming with the tide and not trying to remake them into a guy they're not.

Neither of these guys are Frank Clark, stylistically.

I think Ojulari is settling in as my guy in the 1st round unless a WR I like is still there.

Downs is probably the last in that tier of receivers.

I just think he can be a damn dangerous pass rusher.

Agreed on Ojulari.

You like Downs more than Flowers? Because that's how I feel about Flowers.

So, I'm reading that Byron Young from Tennessee is being ranked too low and there's alot of buzz about him. He's in this same class of guys that are 6'3" 245. Issue for him is he's 24 so he's probably not going to go in the 1st round with pretty equivalent younger guys. I'm going to keep him on the radar in the 2nd though.

Right this second, probably by a little.

WR goes 6 deep for first round candidates for me. And ultimately I'm still not sure I'd take them all ahead of Ojulari.

I just don't see a sub 250 lb. guy being our first round pick at EDGE.

We literally never do that.

These guys look like 3-4 rushbackers to me, and nothing else.

Explain it to me.

Both of these guys are listed at 250+ though.

Everybody wants speed at RDE, and those guys are typically in thst 245-260 range. Clark looked like he was somewhere in that 250-255 range this year.

I think Hall is definitely around 250-255, and if Ojulari comes in lighter than expected at the combine, he's still only 20 years old with a frame to easily put on another 10 pounds.

Where? I see Ojulari at 240ish, and Hall at 250 although both played lighter.

There's nothing official until the combine but everything from the the team site, ESPN, Wiki etc. has Ojulari at 250.

All of those also have Hall listed at 256.

Edit: Hall was officially 252 at the Senior Bowl.

Ojulari is an underclassman, so we won't get anything official until then, but I think he'll be right around 250 as well.

Yeah, I think Ojulari may weigh in around 245 but he's still young and has a projectable frame.

Ok, fair enough.

Just watching the highlight reels from both of these guys, my first reaction is that Ojulari wins around the edge with speed; and that's all I'm seeing on the reel-other than when they left him unblocked for some odd reason. Speed is good, that's cool.

Hall, on the other hand, wins with speed around the edge sometimes, sometimes with speed to power, sometimes working mis-direction off of that.

So, just an observation based on the highlight reels, from those alone I like Hall.

Hall is more turnkey, no question. And on the surface fits the scheme better sooner.

I'm operating under the belief that Clark is back next year and if so, I think you can afford to grab someone that's a little rougher around the edges but who I feel has more ceiling. Especially with the 5th year option in tow.

It's riskier than Hall but I think Ojulari could be a true blue chipper where I'm not sure I see that as much in Hall.