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staylor26 02-22-2023 05:35 PM

I don't know where anybody got the idea that we would be huge buyers this offseason either. This offseason will probably look a lot like last year's.

With the news that they were in on Brown last year, I'd say it's possible that they make 1 big move, but more likely that we're looking at a Reid type of signing, some lower level guys to fill holes, and the rest will be draft picks.

RunKC 02-22-2023 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16823369)
I don't know where anybody got the idea that we would be huge buyers this offseason either. This offseason will probably look a lot like last year's.

With the news that they were in on Brown last year, I'd say it's possible that they make 1 big move, but more likely that we're looking at a Reid type of signing, some lower level guys to fill holes, and the rest will be draft picks.

I think a Chris Jones extension and a Frank Clark restructure (or cut) gives us enough to bring in one bigger name for the short term.

But yeah our team as is is close to good enough. I just want this pass rush amplified. If we can get another crack at a good rusher then we’ll be in business.

kccrow 02-22-2023 06:49 PM

The only position I really want the Chiefs to buy at is DT. Don't much care what they do about the rest in FA. Obviously, they'll work to retain OBj.

raybec 4 02-22-2023 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16823461)
The only position I really want the Chiefs to buy at is DT. Don't much care what they do about the rest in FA. Obviously, they'll work to retain OBj.

Do you have a specific target?

staylor26 02-22-2023 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16823482)
Do you have a specific target?

Greg Gaines would be mine.

kccrow 02-22-2023 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16823482)
Do you have a specific target?

Been firmly on the Greg Gaines hype train for a while.

Nightfyre 02-23-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16822967)
I can't be the only one blindsided by this.

Now the Chiefs are showing -$3m in cap space. They're going to need $10m for the draft class, and $20m for OBJ if they extend him or keep the tag. They're probably also going to extend Sneed this offseason -- Sneed costs us about $2.5m in the last year of his deal, and the deal Charvarius Ward signed ran a first year cap hit of $3.8m, and I'd put them on about the same level, so that's a cap hit of $1m larger.

That's about $34m the Chiefs will need to somehow cover? What's the solution there?

Clearly cutting/reducing Frank Clark will save the team $20-21m, depending on if we cut him or basically give him the same deal we gave him last year, which was to sign him for $1m more than the dead money for cutting him.

That brings us down to $13-14m over the cap. Restructuring Jones would probably get the Chiefs the rest of the way: lowering his $28m cap hit to $14m in his first year -- and maybe farther if the guaranteed money is high.

The Chiefs can squeeze a dollar out here or there for middle-of-the-road vets like McKinnon, Burton, Hardman if he wants back, Blake Bell, maybe Allegretti if he wants back, Nnadi, Darius Harris if he wants back, and Deon Bush. But you're pinching pennies to make some of that stuff work. If Jones takes a team-friendly first-year cap hit (and he and Veach have signed favorable deals before so long as Jones gets his), you can probably sign all of those guys.

But that does mean that a lot of other "middle class vets" seem beyond our cap space?

I don't see how this team can keep Wylie. Allegretti, maybe.

I don't see how this team can keep JuJu. Hardman, maybe.

How can this team keep Carlos Dunlap? Khalen Saunders? Juan Thornhill?

I just don't know where the money comes from unless you're pushing more Mahomes cash down the road, and I think the team just wants to take their medicine with him this year.

I don't see any realistic path by which this team can trade for a top shelf talent like Deandre Hopkins. Nor do I see how they can shell out money for literally any serious free agent, like Marcus Davenport or Keenan Allen.

The team is lucky to have 12 draft picks, and a GM who can make those picks stick.

They're probably going to have to keep all of them to make sure the Chiefs can field a deep roster to maintain last year's success.


I noticed this as well and put a little spreadsheet together because I am a dork. I will upload a screenshot when I can access it. Based on my memory through, while we do show poor cap space right now, extending/trading Brown, extending/cutting Clark, and extending Jones will free up enough cap space to tender 6 players, sign the entire rookie class and wind up a little over 6.5MM in excess cap space. Keep in mind, its only the top 51 contracts and doing all that would leave the Chiefs with 65 players leaving like 14 players not counting towards the cap. The Chiefs will have their work cut out for them to whittle it down to 53, and are likely to have a better roster next year than this year. All that without touching Mahomes contract, which I think you do defer at this juncture.


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