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He's just so humble (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=347753)

Skyy God

02-24-2023 08:47 AM

Humility doesn’t have shit to do with it.

Jimmy Haslem and the Browns ****ed the QB market with the Watson trade.

Lamar just operating in the negotiating environment they created.

Marcellus

02-24-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16825533)

If any team gives Jackson a fully guaranteed contract, I'll laugh at them as they fail for the life of the contract. But I really don't think that he gets it. Burrow, Herbert and Hurts will all get extensions soon. Those contracts will not be fully guaranteed. Then he will have to realize that the Browns were just stupid and Watson's contract means nothing. Hurts just went to the Superbowl. If his contract isn't fully guaranteed, Lamar Jackoff has no case for his being fully guaranteed

Lamar Jackson is the exact opposite type of QB you give a fully guaranteed contract to. His style of play is asking for injury which is ironically why he wants the guaranteed $ and why he wont get the $.

I cant see a single NFL team dumb enough to give him a fully guaranteed contract unless is a short one. Maybe 4 years $200MM.

Skyy God

02-24-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16825509)

Even with his "issues" Watson is a far better passer and QB than Jackson. Any team willing to pay Lamar that amount guaranteed is foolish. Can't blame him for trying though as this will probably be his last big contract unless he dramatically improves as a passer. He is already starting to show signs of breaking down which means he won't be the dynamic runner he is now for much longer.

Watson sucked out loud last year.

Browns were like 5th in offensive EPA under Jacoby and 27th under Deshaun.

Direckshun

02-24-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16825537)

Humility doesn’t have shit to do with it.

Jimmy Haslem and the Browns ****ed the QB market with the Watson trade.

Lamar just operating in the negotiating environment they created.

If you are super, super good at your job, you maximize your payout for it.

This is Lamar doing what any of us would do.

Virtually none of us are Patrick Mahomes, and would forfeit like $100m over a decade.

Mahomes is the psychopath, not Lamar.

wazu	02-24-2023 08:51 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spot the lie. Lamar is going to be a commander <a href="https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PardonMyTake</a> <a href="https://t.co/ynXtTIiKFM">pic.twitter.com/ynXtTIiKFM</a></p>— PFT Commenter (@PFTCommenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1628517151505059845?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2023</a></blockquote>
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tredadda

02-24-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16825540)

Watson sucked out loud last year.

Browns were like 5th in offensive EPA under Jacoby and 27th under Deshaun.

Very true. But Watson was in a new offense and had been out of football for like a year and a half. He was a far better QB pre-issues and I would not be surprised if he was significantly better this year.

Rainbarrel

02-24-2023 09:14 AM

If a Lamar scandal breaks, there will be quite the trend since Gruden
I guess that will have to be after a trade

tredadda

02-24-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16825541)

No one disagrees that he should maximize his payout, but he might also be thinking he is worth more than he is. He could and should command a nine figure contract. From all appearances he appears to be demanding more guaranteed money than Baltimore is willing to pay.

Marcellus

02-24-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16825542)

That's an interesting take.

Stewie

02-24-2023 09:21 AM

Isn't Lamar's mom his agent? I wonder how things would be different if he had a real professional representing him?

arrwheader

02-24-2023 09:23 AM

Just makes you appreciate Mahomes so much more.

Mahomes loves the game, wants to win, wants to cement a legacy.

Lamar wants to be paid, everything else is secondary.

I can't say I blame players personally for wanting their cash over everything. It is their job and might as well be paid for it. Especially him, he is part RB so he's gonna take hits.

It just makes players like mahomes be that much more special. Reason number 500,207 why we are so lucky to have Mahomes.

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Buehler445

02-24-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16825540)

Watson sucked out loud last year.

Browns were like 5th in offensive EPA under Jacoby and 27th under Deshaun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 16825578)

Isn't Lamar's mom his agent? I wonder how things would be different if he had a real professional representing him?

Is it his mom? I'd always heard he was representing himself.

I can't remember who was on Russillos podcast talking about it, but they were saying that representing yourself is pretty easy when you're trying to negotiate a contract with your current employer, but it is much more difficult if you're trying to leverage another team's offer. You need someone to call and feel shit out.

That's all IF you can deal with the idea that it feels personal when the team says, "you're not worth that".

This might be the one where betting on yourself doesn't pay.

scho63

02-24-2023 10:18 AM

Some of these guys have rocks in their head.

Skyy God

02-24-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16825640)

Yes. And it is wonderful.

It likely that Watson will be the better QB over the course of time, but I'm all about being here for it if he doesn't. ROFL

But it is certainly possible that Watson is done. So hilariously, would that make BOB a QB genious?

God this shit is so funny.

Is it his mom? I'd always heard he was representing himself.

I can't remember who was on Russillos podcast talking about it, but they were saying that representing yourself is pretty easy when you're trying to negotiate a contract with your current employer, but it is much more difficult if you're trying to leverage another team's offer. You need someone to call and feel shit out.

That's all IF you can deal with the idea that it feels personal when the team says, "you're not worth that".

This might be the one where betting on yourself doesn't pay.

Not paying a 3% commission in exchange for an agent’s contacts, insights, and experience is asinine.

Lamar is a fool for taking this route.

Buehler445

02-24-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16825672)

Not paying a 3% commission in exchange for an agent’s contacts, insights, and experience is asinine.

Lamar is a fool for taking this route.

Probably right. I think 3% is low. I had 10% in my head, but that might be all the way wrong. If it's only 3%, Lamar is stupid.

If you're a middle of the road guard, or something, I will listen to the idea of going without an agent. I would never sign a contract without having a lawyer look at it, but if you are a guy in a position where your value is known and largely agreed upon, maybe you look at keeping your guy's commission.

But if you're trying to set the market, you need someone with tremendous expertise to manage all the complexities. In 20 years it will be interesting to watch the documentary on this one.

Lamar might eat some shit here.

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