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Couch-Potato 02-28-2023 02:47 PM

My initial impression is that he's too similar to Karlaftis (please educate me if I'm wrong here) and we'd prefer a guy with the opposite play style to George in order to better compliment our DL.

What do you guys think?

Couch-Potato 02-28-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16830822)
In all reality someone to watch is Will McDonald, the way Iowa State used him was criminal so he's underrated at the moment.

I'm going to watch him today! But man, he's the player I get most frustrated seeing mocked to us bc I don't think he fits our need at all. He's too undersized, seems like an OLB to me. Am I wrong on this one guys? Educate me?

htismaqe 02-28-2023 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16830918)
My initial impression is that he's too similar to Karlaftis (please educate me if I'm wrong here) and we'd prefer a guy with the opposite play style to George in order to better compliment our DL.

What do you guys think?

He's similar to George, yes.

However, I'm not sure the Chiefs wouldn't prefer two guys like George over getting a speed rusher. I'd prefer to see a complementary pass rusher opposite George but I'm not sure the Chiefs value that right now.

Mecca 02-28-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16830921)
I'm going to watch him today! But man, he's the player I get most frustrated seeing mocked to us bc I don't think he fits our need at all. He's too undersized, seems like an OLB to me. Am I wrong on this one guys? Educate me?

When you see his actual pass rush snaps he has a lot of talent, spin move is top notch, explosion is there etc.

You just have to question if he can add to the frame without losing anything, if he could get up to 260 with the same traits he can play here.

kccrow 02-28-2023 05:09 PM

I want him just to see Frankie Kmet more often. :D

I do really like VanNess though. He might be there in a trade-up scenario with a team like Minnesota at 23 (kind of my target trade up team for capital expenditure)

JPH83 02-28-2023 05:22 PM

He's a good fit for us but the top 20 talk seems wild to me. We'd be bringing a lot of power but we're not really offering a speed rush.

raybec 4 02-28-2023 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16830947)
When you see his actual pass rush snaps he has a lot of talent, spin move is top notch, explosion is there etc.

You just have to question if he can add to the frame without losing anything, if he could get up to 260 with the same traits he can play here.

I thought he was already 270.

htismaqe 02-28-2023 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16831250)
I thought he was already 270.

He played last year at like 235.

Titty Meat 03-04-2023 12:33 AM

Tip of the cap to Ferentz even though I think he's a shitty in game coach probably because he's from the Pioli/Polian mold but looking at this draft Iowa has guys at alot of positions who will be drafted and they were low rated recruits.

I guess looking at a guy like Van Ness, Moss. Etc whats the ceiling?

chop 03-04-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16831255)
He played last year at like 235.

One site listed him as 275.:hmmm:

htismaqe 03-06-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 16837019)
One site listed him as 275.:hmmm:

According to the ISU website, he was 238.

According to the USA Today, he weighed in "around 240" at the combine.

His draft profile at PFN lists him as 241.

That all being said, I'm seeing things gel for him around the end of the top 10. Lots of talk about him going to the Falcons at 8.

chop 03-06-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16838966)
According to the ISU website, he was 238.

According to the USA Today, he weighed in "around 240" at the combine.

His draft profile at PFN lists him as 241.

That all being said, I'm seeing things gel for him around the end of the top 10. Lots of talk about him going to the Falcons at 8.


Looks like he is out of reach for the Chiefs regardless. I trust your numbers, I'm not sure why he was listed much heavier here:



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...-rankings/edge


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