I'm still trying to figure out what your point is exactly. You're still trying to use players that other teams developed as a basis for your argument, which is extremely flawed.

I mean, did you forget Remmers started games for Carolina then signed a $30m deal and started in Minnesota? Garbage bin? Nah, end of career veteran stopgap but not some garbage bin raid that Heck coached up. Come on man.

The point is simple. His stock was in the toilet following the SB loss to Denver and he bounced around until the Chiefs plugged him in and got adequate play from him at RT.

Everything has been a rebuttal to your butt ****ing moronic statement, if you're still struggling to determine what's going on.

Heck did a good job with OBJ and Wylie in the playoffs. And I think OBJ's grades went up this season over last.

And let's not forget, Wylie was a back-up G. He was never supposed to be a T. So the fact that Heck got him to be good enough to basically stonewall Reddick is pretty good in my book.

i mean, I don't think Heck is probably the best OL coach in the league, but he's done a pretty good job since 2019. Think about it; in 2019 after Week1, the starting OL didn't take a snap together until Week 10. And somehow not only were they okay, but they actually improved over that two months. And it's not like the Chiefs OL is an easy job. There's a ton of movement, non-standard blocking schemes in both the passing game and the run . . . and they have to keep blocking for a lot longer than most OLs do with Pat running around back there.

You have no ****ing clue what you're talking about with regard to Remmers. Let me know when you figure it out and we can maybe discuss reality.

He's failed to develop two 3rd round RTs now and a 4th round OG. Let's see what he does with the 5th rounder that looked lost last offseason. Shall we not discuss those? I can give him a bit of a pass for Niang.

Morse was an OT at Missouri, but was plug and play at C?

Ok.

It's gonna have to be a no from me, dawg, on the whole take.

This is rich coming from the dumb ass that said Heck developed nothing.

You said a butt ****ing stupid statement. Just eat the ****ing loss for saying a dumbass thing instead of doubling and quadrupling down.
Somehow in his own butt ****ing moron logic, you just wake up randomly some day and development no longer happens.

In this case it always seems to happen before Andy Heck coaches them. How about that!

You are one miserable cock sucker man. You should have been banned from this forum years ago. Constantly attacking people. I'm arguing, not calling you a dumbass mother****er. But hey, I can play that game too.

Your dumbass should clearly not agree with Meck here because Morse started at Center in 2012 at Mizzou before he was moved to RT because of OL injuries. They kept him at RT in 2013 then moved him to LT in 2014. Andy Heck didn't need to teach Mitch how to ****ing play Center because he already had, in ****ing college.

You doubled down on your reeruned mother****ing take that Remmers was developed by Heck when all he was was a veteran ****ing bandaid that was a STARTING RT IN THE NFL FOR TWO FRANCHISES prior to coming to KC.

Heck can be not that great at his job and still have some positive effects on players. ****ing idiot.

Cry more, bitch. You're still wrong and dumb as hell.

I mean you keep doubling down and look even ****ing dumber each time you do. Having to play Center on a ravaged Mizzou OL for awhile doesn't mean he was close to refined when he got to the NFL.

Not even NFL ready talents are. All players have to be developed frequently. For someone that thinks they are smart, you sure are one ignorant twat.

Development never stops. Never. Do you understand the words I am saying or do I need to find a cousin ****er to translate into something your pea brain can understand?