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DJ's left nut 04-13-2023 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kozzman555 (Post 16901192)
Nah this actually makes really good sense. If they are only high on CJ Stroud and he isn't available, why not go BPA instead of trying to force a QB that you aren't sold on? Kind of a waste of a top 1st rd pick in my book. Why not have another crappy year, but with some better defense and supporting draft picks this year and try and get a QB next year. This year's QB's are not super impressive.

I really kinda wonder if they weren't trying to pull a fast one on Carolina. All the talk about being interested in Young was just to catch Carolina being cute, get them to trade back thinking "hey, we'll still get Stroud" and then get sniped.

I can't see a single front office in football selecting Young over Stroud. Just some of the typical idiots on sports radio/media who love their "Size doesn't matter - he's a winner!" nonsense.

BigRedChief 04-13-2023 04:18 PM

This is so stupid it has to be a false flag operation all
These teams put out there this time of the year.

Chris Meck 04-13-2023 04:18 PM

You need an elite QB in this league, and you're going to have to draft him in the first. With very, very few exceptions this is true.

However-

That doesn't mean you just do it because you don't have one. If you're not sold on this batch, trade out and gather picks.

I'm not sure Stroud is THAT guy, and I really don't think Young can be as small as he is. Levis and Richardson are the most interesting I think, but both carry a high bust potential.

I don't know man. I think the only thing dumb would be if Houston stays put and doesn't take one. At least move a spot or two and get something for it.

Also, remember, it's a defensive head coach. They usually don't want to **** around with a rookie QB. Everybody's different, but typically defensive head coaches are conservative by nature.

jjchieffan 04-13-2023 04:20 PM

Sounds like a smart move to me. I don't see any of the top quarterbacks ever being worthy of a top 5 pick

RunKC 04-13-2023 04:23 PM

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jjchieffan 04-13-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16901206)
You need an elite QB in this league, and you're going to have to draft him in the first. With very, very few exceptions this is true.

However-

That doesn't mean you just do it because you don't have one. If you're not sold on this batch, trade out and gather picks.

I'm not sure Stroud is THAT guy, and I really don't think Young can be as small as he is. Levis and Richardson are the most interesting I think, but both carry a high bust potential.

I don't know man. I think the only thing dumb would be if Houston stays put and doesn't take one. At least move a spot or two and get something for it.

Also, remember, it's a defensive head coach. They usually don't want to **** around with a rookie QB. Everybody's different, but typically defensive head coaches are conservative by nature.

Sorry. I went to upvote this and somehow hit the down vote. I agree with you on this

Chris Meck 04-13-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16901210)
Sounds like a smart move to me. I don't see any of the top quarterbacks ever being worthy of a top 5 pick

That's not what I was saying.

nevermind.

TwistedChief 04-13-2023 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16901206)
You need an elite QB in this league, and you're going to have to draft him in the first. With very, very few exceptions this is true.

However-

That doesn't mean you just do it because you don't have one. If you're not sold on this batch, trade out and gather picks.

I'm not sure Stroud is THAT guy, and I really don't think Young can be as small as he is. Levis and Richardson are the most interesting I think, but both carry a high bust potential.

I don't know man. I think the only thing dumb would be if Houston stays put and doesn't take one. At least move a spot or two and get something for it.

Also, remember, it's a defensive head coach. They usually don't want to **** around with a rookie QB. Everybody's different, but typically defensive head coaches are conservative by nature.


Totally agree with this.

If I were the Texans, I'd tank the hell out of this next season and go all-in for Caleb Williams. It's not worth taking a QB just to take one if you're not sold on the guys available.

Tribal Warfare 04-13-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16901210)
Sounds like a smart move to me. I don't see any of the top quarterbacks ever being worthy of a top 5 pick

It's the Desaun Watson effect,the Texans are scared shitless that they'll get it wrong

DJ's left nut 04-13-2023 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16901206)
You need an elite QB in this league, and you're going to have to draft him in the first. With very, very few exceptions this is true.

However-

That doesn't mean you just do it because you don't have one. If you're not sold on this batch, trade out and gather picks.

I'm not sure Stroud is THAT guy, and I really don't think Young can be as small as he is. Levis and Richardson are the most interesting I think, but both carry a high bust potential.

I don't know man. I think the only thing dumb would be if Houston stays put and doesn't take one. At least move a spot or two and get something for it.

Also, remember, it's a defensive head coach. They usually don't want to **** around with a rookie QB. Everybody's different, but typically defensive head coaches are conservative by nature.

Right.

Sooner or later you need one. The real problem is for the QB purgetory teams that are actually good rosters with mediocre QBs who get themselves stuck in the 8-15 range.

But that ain't Houston. They're gonna suck for at least another 2 years. Young isn't the guy and if Stroud doesn't fall, why wouldn't you just accept the fact that you still have another year or two (at least) of suck in front of you so you'll no doubt get another shot at that 1.1 and a QB you actually like?

Though I do agree that, should by some small miracle Stroud fall to 2nd, the Texans should take him. He'd be a solid selection.

The other 3? Punt - try again next year.

Chris Meck 04-13-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16901220)
It's the Desaun Watson effect,thr Texans are scared shitless that they'll get it wrong

I've never understood the Watson love at the NFL level.

He mostly just threw rainbow 50/50 balls to Hopkins. I mean, it worked a lot, but I don't see anything special there from him at all, even before we knew he was a serial sexual assaulter.

Chris Meck 04-13-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16901222)
Right.

Sooner or later you need one. The real problem is for the QB purgetory teams that are actually good rosters with mediocre QBs who get themselves stuck in the 8-15 range.

But that ain't Houston. They're gonna suck for at least another 2 years. Young isn't the guy and if Stroud doesn't fall, why wouldn't you just accept the fact that you still have another year or two (at least) of suck in front of you so you'll no doubt get another shot at that 1.1 and a QB you actually like?

Though I do agree that, should by some small miracle Stroud fall to 2nd, the Texans should take him. He'd be a solid selection.

The other 3? Punt - try again next year.

Yep. They need to just stack good football players. If they're lucky someone will fall in love with a guy and give them a haul to go up and get them.

Now that I think about it, THAT might be a good team to take Bijan Robinson. Trade back, stock picks, and nab the stud RB. Play defense and run the ball. I mean, if you don't have a QB...

chiefzilla1501 04-13-2023 04:36 PM

That depends. Do any of the qbs have a brother who played for the son of a guy who once was an intern for bill bellichick?

Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 04:36 PM

LMAO Lovie Smith pulled the ultimate **** you if Stroud ends up being as advertised for the Panthers.

DJ's left nut 04-13-2023 04:37 PM

Pierce is a solid RB. And let's say Robinson is Jamaal Charles - that's how you end up winning 5 games and drafting 6th for the next 5 years. Nah.


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