Also, let's hear all the DEs that are significantly better options at 31...

Their assessment ends with his age.

"How many guys get better at 24? And you'll never give him a second contract..."

A) A TON of players, especially DL, improve at 24.
B) who cares about a second contract when you have a 5th yr option?

As you noted, he's a probable top 10 pick if he's 22.

The tools are absolutely top shelf.

Don’t care. They aren’t as high on certain players as others. There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s what makes it fun.

It’s way better than a pod that would be an echo chamber of “every prospect is awesome!”

They're just awfully holier than thou for guys who had Clellin Ferrell as the 4th best prospect in the draft...

This.

That and they don't come off as the type to eat crow and talk about it after the fact. They'll just shove those shit takes in the corner and only bring up when they were correct.

This defines pretty much that entire industry. There’s a lot of pride there.

The Times Ours guys still have their sacred cows and they'll even grade guys based on how they WANT them to be (Bolton v. Gay is the most obvious example; they give Gay every possible excuse while criticizing Bolton for not being Gay) but they also have no problem bagging on themselves for shit takes.

And frankly, Taylor and Seth earned so much credit with me when they came out after the Hill thing hit the fan and said "yeah - we got this wrong and we apologize biggly..." They were clearly sincere and were, to my knowledge, the only prominent chiefs media members to really fall on their swords.

That's why I listen to Times Ours. Those guys will easily come out and talk about how they're wrong. They also will let you know before hand that they really don't know shit about the draft. Seth is just the film guy, Taylor is the guy who has connections to the Chiefs and Briscoe is there to run the show.

KCSN comes off like they're ****ing draft insiders and that their opinions are the only ones you should trust. And a lot of their fan base eats that shit up.

Somebody in the comments on the Lane tweet said that the AFCW would be up for grabs if the Chiefs have this draft.

What do they think the Chiefs should do?

Trade up for a OT of course! lol.

I can hardly handle the Times Ours pod. Too much dumb shit talked about.

It's every single Chiefs media team. RGR has their little fan group that buys their shit all year then when the chiefs dont do what they have been talking about people get upset. Theres really no way of stopping it unless theres more cross collaboration.

That’s what makes it a listen to me. It sounds like three friends sitting around and talking about the Chiefs…because that’s what it is. It has enough nuggets in there that you’ll get something out of it too.

Yeah, when Josh and Seth just start bickering and Josh just makes some surprisingly pointed and really subtle barb out of left field, that just makes the show.

There have been 10-15 seconds of dead air before when Josh comes off the top rope and just kills Seth and poor Keysor has no response because he's just too damn nice. All he can do is stammer out some half-hearted shot about Josh not being able to eat cookies anymore...

Yeah. I guess really the only thing that can get a little annoying is Nate’s voice sometimes but it’s not so bad now that I’ve listened to it enough. I don’t know how you can listen to Times Ours and not be a fan.

I can’t stand any of the other Chiefs podcasts out there. They’re all straight faced and none of them have actual insight. They’re basically “How about those Chiefs” but in podcast form.