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Titty Meat 04-20-2023 12:05 AM

7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton


Veach making shit happen with 7th round picks

Dunerdr 04-20-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16909291)
Brayden Willis would not be my pick in the 5th round, but kccrow might have how KC would use him. He had 10 carries and 39 catches last year for 540 yards and 7 TDs for Oklahoma. KC still needs Andy's FB for the team.

I like TE Payne Durham, Purdue or TE Luke Schoonmaker, Michigan at 4 (122) if we went earlier.

I'd rather go early with a guy like Schoonmaker or just not at all. We have the projects and niche guys in that room already.

Chris Meck 04-20-2023 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16909422)
I'd rather go early with a guy like Schoonmaker or just not at all. We have the projects and niche guys in that room already.

I understand that Kelce is getting long in the tooth, but the simple fact of the matter is that any young TE is not going to get a lot of targets when you have Travis Kelce.

It's entirely possible that Noah Gray is a legit first string NFL TE on most teams. We don't know, because he's behind Travis Kelce.

I don't think drafting a TE early is going to make much difference, either.

Even when we run 12 and 13 packages, Kelce's going to get the look first, and he's going to get the majority of TE targets. It's just the way it is.

The way is blocked until Kelce hangs it up or significantly regresses.

I just wouldn't worry about it for now. Gray's shown some game.

Couch-Potato 04-20-2023 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16909394)
7.249 Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton


Veach making shit happen with 7th round picks

Would be a nice pick up in the 7th for sure

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16909422)
I'd rather go early with a guy like Schoonmaker or just not at all. We have the projects and niche guys in that room already.

Yeah, a 3rd day TE doesn't make any sense to me. The TE room is actually pretty good. You're not likely to find a meaningful improvement on the 3 backups we have there so why bother?

The Franchise 04-20-2023 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16909496)
Yeah, a 3rd day TE doesn't make any sense to me. The TE room is actually pretty good. You're not likely to find a meaningful improvement on the 3 backups we have there so why bother?

If they don’t take one in the 2-4 round range, then they shouldn’t take one at all.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16909537)
If they don’t take one in the 2-4 round range, then they shouldn’t take one at all.

The only thing I could understand is if someone like Kuntz with a maaaaaasive learning curve ahead of him slid into 5. Then you could theoretically play Bell as more of an H back and all but redshirt Kuntz as a gameday inactive for a year while he learns how to be an actual TE.

Or if Schoonmaker slips due to being overaged - he's just an upgrade in every way on, well everyone on the roster apart from Kelce, IMO.

I think those 2 might be viable 5th rounders and my memory is we have the 1st pick in the 5th round so it's an early 5th (maybe I'm thinking of the 6th round though).

But the Durham, Allen, Ford, Willis group - those are just rookie versions of guys we have a bunch of. I'm just not terribly interested in them even late. They're redundant.

The Franchise 04-20-2023 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16909579)
The only thing I could understand is if someone like Kuntz with a maaaaaasive learning curve ahead of him slid into 5. Then you could theoretically play Bell as more of an H back and all but redshirt Kuntz as a gameday inactive for a year while he learns how to be an actual TE.

Or if Schoonmaker slips due to being overaged - he's just an upgrade in every way on, well everyone on the roster apart from Kelce, IMO.

I think those 2 might be viable 5th rounders and my memory is we have the 1st pick in the 5th round so it's an early 5th (maybe I'm thinking of the 6th round though).

But the Durham, Allen, Ford, Willis group - those are just rookie versions of guys we have a bunch of. I'm just not terribly interested in them even late. They're redundant.

Kuntz is who I was specifically talking about and that's because I saw him being an option at 135.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 09:29 AM

Kuntz would be a fun pick. But it looks like we're in our standard slot in 5 and I don't see him going that late.

And I'm not sure I'm terribly keen on taking him at the back of 4, but man those tools are SO loud.

I just think if this project were easy enough to put any confidence in, there's no way a guy with his size/strength/speed goes in the late 4th/early 5th. The entire league isn't that stupid.

But yeah, I'd be excited if we took him. Because he genuinely could replace Kelce someday and would be on the right timeline to do it. Moreover, learning from Kelce and Reid (who's history with TEs I've mentioned before) would be an absolutely ideal situation for him.

**** it - KUNTZ IN THE 4TH!

I'm in.

The Franchise 04-20-2023 09:37 AM

I think if you could come away with a guy like Harrison in the 1st, a WR in the 2nd and a DE with a DT in the 3rd and 4th round....then Kuntz at the tail end of the 4th is a homerun pick.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 09:44 AM

Alright - who you on in the 3rd?

Because we have room to bargain here. I'm gonna need you to get behind Harrison in the 1st and I can back Foskey (even over Rice, because I'm trying to build us a consensus board here) in the 2nd.

Though sadly, we may be an an impasse because I can't imagine Foskey going late 2 and I don't have him in my top tiers in Rd1.

Wait - how 'bout

1st: Foskey
2nd: Rice
3rd: Blake Freeland
4a: No idea - let's discuss. I'll throw my Mizzou guy, Isaiah McGuire out there for consideration
4b: Kuntz
5: Keondre Coburn
6a: Nick Saldiveri
6b: Jerrod Clark
7a: Anthony Johnson Jr.
7b: Cam Jones

Join me, sir, in supporting this as the ideal Mock Draft for your 2023 Chiefs.

DJ's left nut 04-20-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16909681)
I think if you could come away with a guy like Harrison in the 1st, a WR in the 2nd and a DE with a DT in the 3rd and 4th round....then Kuntz at the tail end of the 4th is a homerun pick.

Wait a minute - I didn't have you as Team Harrison to this point.

O.city 04-20-2023 09:45 AM

Just FYI, Nate Taylor has Harrison as a possibility at pick 63

staylor26 04-20-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16909692)
Just FYI, Nate Taylor has Harrison as a possibility at pick 63

Lol he's clueless.

staylor26 04-20-2023 09:46 AM

This is a really ****ing good draft/mock though. Sign me up for that today with no hesitation.


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