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Direckshun 09-27-2023 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17132481)
Stop.

What he did with Thuney was very savvy. He missed out on the LT he wanted but had a plan, which we all bitched about. But adding a guy like Thuney gas the Chiefs a foundation in which to build the line around.

Yes. He hit a home run with drafting Creed Humphries. Huge position of need and he feel in to our laps. Smith was a find, but he's not the Pro-Bowl guard you make him out to be. I love the guy, with Creed they provide a lot of nasty that was lacking in the trenches.

But I also think they signing of Taylor and Smith were shrewd. Again, Veach threw out conventional wisdom when he gave huge money to a RT. Its very similar to what he did with Thuney. And Smith, while not perfect, is a much better investment than Hopkins and OBJ. Nice stop gap that allows the Chiefs to compete for another championship while giving them more time to find the solution at LT.

Also don't forget he had the balls to let Orlando Brown Jr walk. Bad GMs just give him the money.
Trey Smith was literally a Pro Bowl alternate multiple years. So I don't know what you're saying. And the Smith signing was fantastic.

Direckshun 09-27-2023 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17132482)
This post comes off very bipolar.
Nuanced, is what I'd say.

Multiple things can always be true.

staylor26 09-27-2023 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17132496)
Nuanced, is what I'd say.

Multiple things can always be true.
Starting off with "what has Veach done though?" didn't do you any favors.

It wasn't "nuanced". Just another bad take from you. He's responsible for all 5 starters. He built the entire OL.

Hoover 09-27-2023 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17132497)
Starting off with "what has Veach done though?" didn't do you any favors.

It wasn't "nuanced". Just another bad take from you. He's responsible for all 5 starters. He built the entire OL.
Agree.

After re-reading it I think I agree with what you said.

Veach has been amazing. Very creative.

RunKC 09-27-2023 09:40 AM
I cannot believe what the guy has done. He's reshaped entire positional units in short time with efficiency and financial responsibility.

Our OL was ****ed at the end of 2020. He rebuilt it into an elite unit.
Our LB's were terrible in 2020/2021. Veach has turned it into one of the better LB units in the league.
The secondary was torn down and rebuilt in one off-season.

Now it's slowly looking like he's building a good DL around Chris Jones as insurance.

That's what I'm not afraid of trading Chris Jones. That's how much trust I have in the guy and our staff in general.

DaFace 09-27-2023 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17132490)
I have no idea what you're talking about. The post you quoted directly gave him immense credit for 3/5 of the OL positions.

You guys, I swear.
Dude. This is you. If your point is to give him credit, perhaps you shouldn't start out with this.

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What has Veach done, though?

He did what most GMs can easily do

Direckshun 09-27-2023 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17132497)
Starting off with "what has Veach done though?" didn't do you any favors.

It wasn't "nuanced". Just another bad take from you. He's responsible for all 5 starters. He built the entire OL.
Not my fault if you're incapable of taking the totality of an argument a post is making.

He gets credit for all five starters and the backups, by the way. He's the one who signed them all.

I just think some of those accomplishments are more notable than others. Thuney/Taylor are the kinds of big splash moves that GMs make every offseason, and while he deserves credit for them, both are pretty standard moves.

The other three starting spots had a much, much higher degree of difficulty.

You guys, I swear.

Direckshun: Veach did an incredible job landing 3/5 of the starters.
ChiefsPlanet: HE WAS AMAZING, EVERYWHERE, AT ALL FIVE SPOTS, HATER

staylor26 09-27-2023 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17132510)
Dude. This is you. If your point is to give him credit, perhaps you shouldn't start out with this.
It's like he purposely contradicted himself so he would get a certain response and then play stupid.

notorious 09-27-2023 09:42 AM
It's amazing we've gone from the Superbowl embarrassment to this in a fairly short time.

RunKC 09-27-2023 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17132471)
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I'm ready to crown this as the best overall draft in Chiefs history. Yes 2017 has its place but this draft has quality AND quantity that quite literally won us a SB last season. Lot of those picks stepped up when our QB was playing on one leg.

It's a shame that Nazareth Johnson got hurt bc he was gonna be a player from what he heard through all of camp.

Direckshun 09-27-2023 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17132510)
Dude. This is you. If your point is to give him credit, perhaps you shouldn't start out with this.
Please, please, please do not morph into staylor. ChiefsPlanet beseeches you. We don't need two of you running around.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17132513)
Not my fault if you're incapable of taking the totality of an argument a post is making.

DaFace 09-27-2023 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17132519)
Please, please, please do not morph into staylor. ChiefsPlanet beseeches you. We don't need two of you running around.
Perhaps you're just bad at communicating the point you're trying to make...

staylor26 09-27-2023 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17132519)
Please, please, please do not morph into staylor. ChiefsPlanet beseeches you. We don't need two of you running around.

https://i.imgur.com/osG5Jn5.jpg

Direckshun 09-27-2023 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17132523)
Perhaps you're just bad at communicating the point you're trying to make...
I have been accused of many, many things. But a lack of effective elucidation has rarely been among the accusations.

But you place me among the hypersensitive manchildren of ChiefsPlanet and I magically begin tripping wires with every other post.

What can you do.

FlaChief58 09-27-2023 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17132464)
Chiefs Kingdom doesn't deserve Veach.

It's embarrassing when you find a Twitter thread of Chiefs fans bitching and moaning about the man, like there are better GMs out there.
We suffered through pissholy. We deserve ALL the escalades


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