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Bowser 11-21-2023 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17236442)
What is Reidball?

Reidball is a wide receiver by committee offense that Andy Reid employs that often takes the best contributing personnel off the football field so that he can run packages with other receivers with plays specifically designed for them, yet cannot execute, when the same play could be successfully executed had he kept the best personnel on the field.

Reidball has been an unmitigated Alex Smith to Junior Hemingway level shitshow thusfar this season. It has not worked, and it will not work moving forward. Reidball offense has resulted in a league high 26 drops this season, and a complete inability to produce any points offensively in the second halves of football games, often due to better personnel suited for the task standing on the sideline at the snap of the football.

Rashee Rice should not come off the field unless he is exhausted or injured. He is far and away the best receiver on the team, and Andy is content to put this dude on a pitch count. Hardman is not being used at all how he was used last year. What does he have since being picked up again, one jet sweep and a couple little bubble screens?

Reidball also embraces the cowardice of punting from the enemy 40 on 4th and manageable to save the epic field position totals of 17-19 yards, knowing that the offense's best chance at points is staring him dead in the face. Andy field the best defense he's ever seen in KC and still refuses to press the issue offensively.

The Reidball experiment has failed.

Andy Reid needs to scrap his alternate packages designed specifically for players that cannot handle the complexity of catching a football, and move to a traditional best personnel on the field at all times WR 1,2,3,4 approach.

Rice should never come off the field for Moore or MVS. Kelce shouldn't come off the field for Bell. Pacheco shouldn't be off the field for Clyde.

Better personnel decisions must be made, snd someone search Andy's wife's purse for his balls on 4th and manageable.

We have a monstrous God damn defense, and we forget how to manage personnel and call offense in response?

You say all of this, yet it's execution by the skill position guys that has us with three losses when we realistically should be undefeated right now.

It's the players, and it's damned well NOT the coach or his scheme. I'm frustrated as hell myself but come on with this.

Chiefnj2 11-21-2023 07:15 AM

The game plan was good. Very good. They ran it well on the Eagles almost doubling Philly's season average.

Two red zone turnovers were not the fault of Reid or Nagy, and the dropped passes that killed drives and took points off the board weren't their fault either.

Thread fail.

Jewish Rabbi 11-21-2023 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17236549)
You say all of this, yet it's execution by the skill position guys that has us with three losses when we realistically should be undefeated right now.

It's the players, and it's damned well NOT the coach or his scheme. I'm frustrated as hell myself but come on with this.

Talking sense into Wallcrawler is like asking him to get rid of his extra chromosome

Valiant 11-21-2023 08:11 AM

Lol. It is mostly on the receivers and drops for the losses.

At this point this season it is what it is. Next year. Draft two receivers.

Titty Meat 11-21-2023 09:21 AM

Put the keyboard down and go peel the herpes scab off your dick OP

Wallcrawler 11-21-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17236541)
Pussy wanted to say "Reidtard" but he knew everybody would call him a ****ing moron and didn't want his feelings hurt.

He'll deny it, but it's absolutely true. Just like how he wishes Andy weren't coaching the team, another thing he denies.

Heh. Everyone wave at the guy who thinks criticism means fire. Watch out for the drool, and disregard the smell. He hasn't gotten through a post without shitting in his pants for decades.


Wallcrawler: Hey Andy, your best players should be on the field at all times if possible.

RealSNR: WHY DO YOU WANT ANDY FIRED ZOMGGGG

It's so stupid you can't make it up. CP is one of the greatest places on earth where people on the spectrum can be let off their leashes with absolutely zero consequence.

Hey RealSNR, ready to load your diaper?

Let's talk about your favorite thing. Situational football! Let's discuss Andy punting from the 40 to save 19 yards field position on 4th and manageable. AGAIN.


Hold your noses folks, this one's gonna be a doozy.

crayzkirk 11-21-2023 09:45 AM

Andy may be able to draw up plays that get players open however most of what the Chiefs do is pure Patrick Mahomes. No one is going to be successful when they can't rely on their teammates; Patrick has had Travis, that's changing and no amount of scheming to get players open or saying I'm going to fix that will change it. You can't teach fast or smart and our WRs are neither.

Eleazar 11-21-2023 10:09 AM

Receivers who aren’t very good need to at least do the minimum of catching the ball.

Others need to stop getting silly penalties.

If those two happen, the team is fine. We still have glaring needs, but we could be considered legitimate contenders .

FlaChief58 11-21-2023 10:36 AM

This shit isn't solely on Andy. Vatch should have picked up a reliable target in free agency. My guess is that he figured Mahomes could make good recievers out of grocery baggers and it blew up in his face.
Now we're sitting here with no way to improve that group this year. Sure we'll make the playoffs, but I doubt we make a deep run. The thing that pisses me off most about it is that we've wasted a year of Mahomes and Kelce. I'm guessing Kelce hangs them up after this season so he can pursue his other interests without beating his body up more that it already is. If so, Vatch won't be able to go bpa in the draft and will have to reach for a couple of playmakers. This is feeling more and more like it's going to be a mini rebuild next season

RealSNR 11-21-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17236772)
Heh. Everyone wave at the guy who thinks criticism means fire. Watch out for the drool, and disregard the smell. He hasn't gotten through a post without shitting in his pants for decades.


Wallcrawler: Hey Andy, your best players should be on the field at all times if possible.

RealSNR: WHY DO YOU WANT ANDY FIRED ZOMGGGG

It's so stupid you can't make it up. CP is one of the greatest places on earth where people on the spectrum can be let off their leashes with absolutely zero consequence.

Hey RealSNR, ready to load your diaper?

Let's talk about your favorite thing. Situational football! Let's discuss Andy punting from the 40 to save 19 yards field position on 4th and manageable. AGAIN.


Hold your noses folks, this one's gonna be a doozy.

Uh-huh. The guy who in the past has pouted and whined and called our Chiefs SB-winning head coach a "Reidtard" calmly criticized the coach with "Hey Andy, your best players should be on the field at all times if possible."

Gaslight much?

Wallcrawler 11-21-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17236944)
Uh-huh. The guy who in the past has pouted and whined and called our Chiefs SB-winning head coach a "Reidtard" calmly criticized the coach with "Hey Andy, your best players should be on the field at all times if possible."

Gaslight much?

Lmfao.

So I'm now the ONLY poster on CP to use REIDTARD for Andy Reid?

I didn't coin full Reidtard. Someone else did, many others used it during his numerous gaffes during his KC tenure. Well earned, and deserved for every one of his utterly braindead borderline catatonic coaching collapses. Winning a superbowl later, because you got the best player maybe EVER to fall in your lap doesn't erase it, and let's be honest, 2 superbowl wins out of 5 straight AFC title appearances with aforementioned best player maybe ever, ain't ****ing great bruh. But you're still in battered Chiefs fan bruised pussy syndrome and the guy that got it done is now beyond reproach for you, and you can't see objectively that the job he's done with Mahomes thusfar, he's failed to seal the deal more than he's gotten it done, which falls right in line with Andy's full coaching history.

But you're a Reid slobbing fanboy that defends Andy like he's his dying mother beset by evil.

If I called Andy a coward for punting from the 40, it can't just be a situation where I'd like Andy to find his balls and you know, maybe pay attention to the ****ing game we are all seeing, and don't take the ball out of again...the best player maybe EVERs hands to save a measly 20 ****ing yards with a ferocious defense. No it must mean I want him fired.

Christ you're ****ing reidtarded actually. It should be the name of the mental disorder for all of you blind homer fanboys that can't face the fact that not only is Andy not perfect, he's a far cry from it.

He's got a lot of warts. He's always had them. 15 has masked a lot of them.

But hey, go on pounding your chest about the greatest offensive mind in NFL history averaging 5 points in the second half struggling to solve the mystery of 3rd and 1.

Bearcat 11-21-2023 11:37 AM

Walltard, amirite

Jewish Rabbi 11-21-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17236987)
Walltard, amirite

Wish it was Unable to start threads anymore Crawler

Hammock Parties 11-21-2023 11:38 AM

andy isn't allowed to lose games

and when he does he's the worst coach EVAH!!!

dirk digler 11-21-2023 11:42 AM

While I agree with your premise on the WR's usage you may not be aware but for years they have been load managing Kelce. He typically plays 75% of the snaps to keep him fresh and injury free for the most part.

Also every team rotates RB's now so that isn't an issue they just need to find a replacement for MEH.


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