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RunKC 12-25-2023 03:19 PM

What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that

Sure-Oz 12-25-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wbbonneriii (Post 17299835)
The only guy in the world that can stop PM15…



Please fire him tonight!

Multiple offensive coaches need to go

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-25-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17299886)
What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that

A lot of truth being told here

A Salt Weapon 12-25-2023 03:23 PM

I’m over the Nagy experiment, he’s had 2/3rd of a season and it’s atrocious. Bring in someone new with different ideas.

louie aguiar 12-25-2023 03:25 PM

Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.

Ken Bone 12-25-2023 03:26 PM

I’m still trying to understand how we lost to a shitty raiders team who didn’t score an offensive touchdown.

Justman59 12-25-2023 03:27 PM

Must go.

ChiefsFanatic 12-25-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 17299859)
This is Andy offensive lol at you all thinking Matt has any say.

When EB was the OC, did the offense ever look this lost?

It doesn't matter who calls the plays. Nagy obviously sucks at helping Reid create the First Fifteen script.

In the past, and with EB as the OC, the scripted plays to start the game usually worked, and resulted in points.

Did Reid suddenly forget how to script plays? No. The plays that Nagy identifies as being good against a specific defense suck. He has no clue how to attack and set up a defense.

Nagy is absolutely the second biggest part of the problem.

The biggest part of the problem is that Veach failed at least twice (preseason and at the trade deadline) to improve the WR room.

Adding ONE receiver or pass catcher, at any point, other than Kelce (and now Rice) who was anywhere close to being competent, would have made a huge difference in the way the season is playing out.

BWillie 12-25-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 17299932)
Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.

This very well not be Nagy's fault BUT if the OC doesn't matter and the team automatically sputters with him at OC...then there is no risk to make a change...

Gary Cooper 12-25-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 17299932)
Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.

Yeah, I'm not sure what offensive wizard or genius could fix this. Andy Reid is supposed to be the best offensive mind in the game.

This isn't fixable without new personnel.

ShortRoundChief 12-25-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 17299868)
Time to repo the golf carts

Apparently he should have gotten them something else.

ThaVirus 12-25-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17299886)
What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that

Players play, but I wonder about some of the play calls.

The play call that led to the Pach/Mahomes fumble and the back-to-back Kelce screens inside the 10 stand out.

ChiefsFanatic 12-25-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17299958)
This very well not be Nagy's fault BUT if the OC doesn't matter and the team automatically sputters with him at OC...then there is no risk to make a change...

That's actually a good point.

Too bad we know that Reid is loyal to a fault. Like, if Sutton didn't retire, he would still be the DC.

Pablo 12-25-2023 03:31 PM

More like Matt bundle of sticks-gy amirite??

But seriously **** this guy. I haven't had this little fun watching an offense in a decade or so. I'm gonna blame Mr. Shitcago

RunKC 12-25-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17299957)
When EB was the OC, did the offense ever look this lost?

It doesn't matter who calls the plays. Nagy obviously sucks at helping Reid create the First Fifteen script.

In the past, and with EB as the OC, the scripted plays to start the game usually worked, and resulted in points.

Did Reid suddenly forget how to script plays? No. The plays that Nagy identifies as being good against a specific defense suck. He has no clue how to attack and set up a defense.

Nagy is absolutely the second biggest part of the problem.

The biggest part of the problem is that Veach failed at least twice (preseason and at the trade deadline) to improve the WR room.

Adding ONE receiver or pass catcher, at any point, other than Kelce (and now Rice) who was anywhere close to being competent, would have made a huge difference in the way the season is playing out.

Playcalls are fine but the talent sucks. EB looked good with Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill, prime Kelce, Fisher and Schwartz at tackle along with Damien Williams.

Are you really stupid enough to think the offense looks this bad if those players at those points of their career were playing today?


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