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Frazod 01-25-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17361508)
The NFL is king. The old KC/STL rivalry has faded over the decades, by a lot. Now if you're a kid growing up anywhere in Missouri, the only team in your state has the best player in the history of the game. Why look elsewhere?

Seriously. Who else are they going to root for? The Bears?

ThyKingdomCome15 01-25-2024 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17362496)
And Kansas' team, and Iowa's team, and Nebraska's team...

They actually play in Missouri though.

sedated 01-25-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17361508)
The old KC/STL rivalry has faded over the decades, by a lot.

From what I've heard from people in STL, the "rivalry" was one-sided - STL never really cared about KC, they were more concerned with their inferiority complex toward Chicago.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-25-2024 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 17362733)
From what I've heard from people in STL, the "rivalry" was one-sided - STL never really cared about KC, they were more concerned with their inferiority complex toward Chicago.


KC fans put a lot more into it for sure. That's just the difference in how the two fan bases are though. In STL you actually sat down and stood up when a big play happened, like baseball. In KC you don't know what sitting down is. It was like the quiet older brother ignoring the obnoxious younger brother. That's the best I can put it.

I do remember when the Rams left there were legit questions as to what team would pick up that market. Chicago and Indy were popular. Tennesee was mentioned. Funny thing is not many mentioned KC but it's clear who has won out.

ScareCrowe 01-25-2024 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17362245)
Obviously Kroenke is looking upward at any form of scum that exists on the earth, but they were only able to get out of their lease in St. Louis because the city refused to renovate or replace the terrible building they were playing in.

That's not actually true. The city had a new stadium approved & ready to go. It only needed Kroenke & the NFL to get behind it because it relied on Kroenke applying for G4 funds from the NFL. Which of course he refused to do.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-25-2024 04:48 PM

Clark got so lucky with Mahomes coinciding with the Rams departure almost perfectly. Just a flood of cash coming in.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-25-2024 05:01 PM

They already had a huge Chiefs fan base....even befire the Rams moved. Now it's a supernova of Chiefs fans.

Raiderhater 01-25-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 17362221)
This is true. I'm trying to pick up the slack though.
F the Cardinals and everything STL!

Yeah, let’s be real here, it’s not just the sports aspect, St. Louis sucks as a city in general.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-25-2024 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScareCrowe (Post 17362882)
That's not actually true. The city had a new stadium approved & ready to go. It only needed Kroenke & the NFL to get behind it because it relied on Kroenke applying for G4 funds from the NFL. Which of course he refused to do.

Yet STL was lead to believe the NFL was negotiating in good faith. Dave Peacock did an incredible job putting forth a legitimate plan for a new stadium with funding secured. When it became clear Kroenke and the NFL were not negotiating in good faith a lawsuit followed after the departure of the Rams.

Kroenke was not happy with the league. In truth he actually never said anything to insinuate STL had a chance to keep the team, outside of an expensive proposal to renovate the dome that failed.

In return the league told Keoenke from the beginning he was responsible for all legal bills. Stan paid a lot money for everything.

-Five hundred million dollar law suit
-Five hundred million dollar relocation fee
-Six billion dollar stadium

In all honesty the money put into all of it is staggering. Was it worth it? I guess so. Crazy.

Final thought: I think STL came out ot it pretty good. They can just root for the other Missouri team who on the brink of a dynasty. Andy, Patrick and company have brought the whole state together under one unified Chiefs Kingdom. I didn't think that was possible.

I just followed Nick Foles to the Chiefs, the last STL Rams QB. I thought he'd be the starter and I could watch him play for two teams. A year later Mahomes was drafted.

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2024 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17362756)
KC fans put a lot more into it for sure. That's just the difference in how the two fan bases are though. In STL you actually sat down and stood up when a big play happened, like baseball. In KC you don't know what sitting down is. It was like the quiet older brother ignoring the obnoxious younger brother. That's the best I can put it.

I do remember when the Rams left there were legit questions as to what team would pick up that market. Chicago and Indy were popular. Tennesee was mentioned. Funny thing is not many mentioned KC but it's clear who has won out.

Packers are the clear number 2 in St. Louis behind the Chiefs. Post-Dispatch did an article on it. They even picked up the preseason games.

Pablo 01-25-2024 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17362981)
Yeah, let’s be real here, it’s not just the sports aspect, St. Louis sucks as a city in general.

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ThyKingdomCome15 01-25-2024 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17363060)
Packers are the clear number 2 in St. Louis behind the Chiefs. Post-Dispatch did an article on it. They even picked up the preseason games.

They are the only publicly owned stadium in the league. I can see where that would he appealing lol.

wazu 01-25-2024 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 17362733)
From what I've heard from people in STL, the "rivalry" was one-sided - STL never really cared about KC, they were more concerned with their inferiority complex toward Chicago.

Sorry, no. I went to school in Springfield, MO. I actually didn't know we had a rivalry until I was suddenly mixed in with 50/50 St. Louis people. At the time they hated the Chiefs and Royals with a passion. Now that was 30 years ago. I don't think it's a thing at all now. When I visit St. Louis most of my friends who live there are now Chiefs fans, either hardcore or casual. And that's my generation who had the Rams and Kurt Warner/Marshall Faulk. So the younger demographics are completely "fan" free agents.

Rams Fan 01-25-2024 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17362245)
Obviously Kroenke is looking upward at any form of scum that exists on the earth, but they were only able to get out of their lease in St. Louis because the city refused to renovate or replace the terrible building they were playing in.

The lease was stupid to begin with because the city gave them the out clause due to their president (John Shaw) asking for it and they just said yes.

There were like 20+ stadiums built or substantially renovated from the time the Dome opened, meaning there was 0 chance the Dome would have any chance of being top 25% (which was how they were able to get out of the lease). The lease situation went to arbitration, which sided with the Rams (city proposed renovations as well as the Rams, but Rams proposal was like $700 million). If city had met the Rams request, it would've only kept them through 2025 which would have been a waste of money.

Instead, the state and city spent $15ish million on a task force to work on a stadium proposal with guidance and input from both the league and the Rams. Funding was approved by the city + state as well as a naming rights deal in place. NFL said financial package wasn't adequate (even though hundreds of millions of public dollars were put in place that were approved). St. Louis also would have been the only city to have built and majority financed TWO NFL stadiums within a span of 25 years.

So, the notion that the city wasn't going to replace the stadium is bullshit.

Kroenke ended up settling with the city for $700 million.

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 17362733)
From what I've heard from people in STL, the "rivalry" was one-sided - STL never really cared about KC, they were more concerned with their inferiority complex toward Chicago.


Correct. Chicago is who we have an inferiority complex to and view as our rival, not KC.

InChiefsHeaven 01-25-2024 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17362981)
Yeah, let’s be real here, it’s not just the sports aspect, St. Louis sucks as a city in general.

Stayed one night there on the way to Memphis...and I have to concur. That place sucked. Stayed at the Hilton with a view of the Arch...worst service all the way around I've ever had at a "nice" hotel.

We had a better time in Memphis and that's like the per capita murder capital of America.

St. Louis sucked.


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