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pugsnotdrugs19 12-04-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17839971)
He is going to appeal and it may be cut to 2 but hopefully not.

Even if it is, he misses our game. They have a BYE this week.

old_geezer 12-04-2024 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17839941)
Respectfully disagree on the Lawrence hit. Al-Shaair had plenty of time to avoid it. Very dirty.

Once the QB leaves the pocket he is a runner and deserves no more protection than any running back. That being said, that hit was dirty as hell and should have been called no matter who was running.

Dunerdr 12-04-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 17840009)
Once the QB leaves the pocket he is a runner and deserves no more protection than any running back. That being said, that hit was dirty as hell and should have been called no matter who was running.

But QB's get to give themselves up. And he did. If the runner doesnt give himself up I would agree fully that he should be hit as a runner.

DaFace 12-04-2024 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17839941)
Respectfully disagree on the Lawrence hit. Al-Shaair had plenty of time to avoid it. Very dirty.

Yeah, I don't get calling it a late slide. They were 5 yards apart when Lawrence started his slide. That seems like plenty of time to me, and that's ignoring the forearm to the head. If he was trying to go for a chest tackle, why would he do that?

Garcia Bronco 12-04-2024 09:18 AM

If quarterbacks want to run the football this is the risk that they run. I'm going to laugh when the league has to reduce it to one game.

Wallcrawler 12-04-2024 09:31 AM

It's not the same game as it was.

Look, as a qb, if you don't want to get hit, don't run the football. Get out past your tackle box, and throw the football into the stands.

If you do run the football, and don't want to get hit you better slide before there's a player in launch range.

If there's a player in launch range, DO NOT slide, leaving yourself wide open to get ****ed in half. Just brace for the hit and protect yourself.

Some of the most savage quarterback hits and injuries have occurred during the slide, where if the guy just nuts up and takes a hit, he's walking back to the huddle instead of being carted off the field.

TLO 12-04-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17840035)
It's not the same game as it was.

Look, as a qb, if you don't want to get hit, don't run the football. Get out past your tackle box, and throw the football into the stands.

If you do run the football, and don't want to get hit you better slide before there's a player in launch range.

If there's a player in launch range, DO NOT slide, leaving yourself wide open to get ****ed in half. Just brace for the hit and protect yourself.

Some of the most savage quarterback hits and injuries have occurred during the slide, where if the guy just nuts up and takes a hit, he's walking back to the huddle instead of being carted off the field.

:spock:

mr. tegu 12-04-2024 10:18 AM

Every player that gives themselves up is protected not just QBs. The QB isn’t getting special treatment in that regard.

RedinTexas 12-04-2024 10:58 AM

Sports talk radio in Houston is really defensive about this. They're saying it was a dirty hit and he deserves to be suspended, but that everyone is just after this guy. Some are even saying it's racism and he's being singled out just because he's Muslim.

Chief Pagan 12-04-2024 11:00 AM

If it was Lamar or Josh Allen, you don't know for sure whether Lamar might try to juke or Josh might lower his shoulder, but Trevor isn't doing that.

It was a dirty hit.

I can't imagine any of you defending that hit if it was Mahomes.

headsnap 12-04-2024 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17840016)
Yeah, I don't get calling it a late slide. They were 5 yards apart when Lawrence started his slide. That seems like plenty of time to me, and that's ignoring the forearm to the head. If he was trying to go for a chest tackle, why would he do that?

add in the fact that he had enough time after the slide was started to get low enough to hit Lawrence...

Mecca 12-04-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17840119)
Sports talk radio in Houston is really defensive about this. They're saying it was a dirty hit and he deserves to be suspended, but that everyone is just after this guy. Some are even saying it's racism and he's being singled out just because he's Muslim.

That's because some idiot on twitter had a thing up 2 hours after that game ended about his free Palestine cleats, it literally turned into a bunch of people wanting him deported..yea he was born in Tampa...or calling him a terrorist sympathizer and all the typical bullshit. If that happened to one of our guys people would be defensive.

Him being a dirty player and his religion have literally nothing to do with each other and it was idiotic someone did that to him.

chiefzilla1501 12-04-2024 11:38 AM

I mean,I know the controversy is that this is harsh compared to how we've enforced off the field conduct. But to me this is way worse. Player conduct only impacts the shield. This type of action gets into competitive integrity. You never ever wanted to reward players for knocking players out of a game. I don't care if that means you misfire sometimes. A few extra suspensions here and there is a way better outcome than knocking out or seriously injuring qbs and WRs.

Mecca 12-04-2024 11:44 AM

GM is a bit pissed off about all this..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Caserio is ANGRY.<br><br>Hopefully this suspension can light a fire under this team, it&#39;s been much needed.. <a href="https://t.co/GPivxsNgUD">pic.twitter.com/GPivxsNgUD</a></p>&mdash; te�� ��☄️��® (@TexanicoYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexanicoYT/status/1864004951619354805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 12-04-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17840181)
I mean,I know the controversy is that this is harsh compared to how we've enforced off the field conduct. But to me this is way worse. Player conduct only impacts the shield. This type of action gets into competitive integrity. You never ever wanted to reward players for knocking players out of a game. I don't care if that means you misfire sometimes. A few extra suspensions here and there is a way better outcome than knocking out or seriously injuring qbs and WRs.

They are going to have to do something, guys are being put in no win situations. To many QB's are slowing up like they are going to slide and not or getting by the sideline and then not dipping out when defenders let up.

You are literally going to hit a point of someone getting completely blasted because "Just hit them anyway" may become something that is coached.


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