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loochy 02-13-2025 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17967138)
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BigRedChief 02-13-2025 08:10 AM

No, not a reset but we do need to quit paying our players top of the market contracts. We have $71 million tied up in 3 offensive linemen this cap year. I was good with all the contracts but now we also will need to pay a LT too. Thats another $25+ million. I think the OL is a priority. That said, we need to cut salary in other positions.

The cuts are going to hurt elsewhere. Like paying Bolton a top $ contract for being a great run stopper. We need LB's with more speed to cover the RB/LB's out of the backfield. FTR, I love Bolton as a player but this is just a cap thing. Just like Reid is still at the top of his game but we need to let him go.

posted in another thread but seemed more relevant here
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smithandrew051 02-13-2025 08:30 AM

I don’t think the quality of draft picks the last two years is an issue so much as the quantity.

The little moves for late round picks really add up over time. Eventually, we’ll need to part with an ascending player for picks.

I 100% understand going in for the 3-peat. Now that it’s off the table, play the long game. The window is open as long as 15 is under center.

scho63 02-13-2025 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17967133)
First off, don't patronise me you whore addicted frump.

You did not simply ask questions. You came up with a scenario that we will miss the playoffs and then said you'd be okay with it. In fact you ask if we are going to miss the playoffs three times and then follow up with a question about whether it would be a tragedy if we missed the playoffs.

It seems that you're obsessed about the chance of missing the playoffs which is why I said it's an overreaction.

Your response proves you have the reading comprehension and temperament of a juvenile.

cabletech94 02-13-2025 08:40 AM

we will have a much different roster next year with all the expiring contracts. i don't know how that will affect our status next season.
what i do know is that we have an amazing GM and crew that will get us players that will keep us competitive. In Veach we trust.

dallaschiefsfan 02-13-2025 08:42 AM

With such massive rosters, there's also a diversity of personalities and degrees of mental toughness/focus on NFL teams. My only concern has always been that not everyone is as hungry and focused as Patrick, Kelce, etc. That's why you replace players that you think have grown complacent or tired (or just in it for their payday) with rooks or players that have never won. I've noticed this runs in 3-4 year cycles. Regular champs like the Chiefs can't afford to keep players - even talented ones - that are not obsessed with being great.

BigRedChief 02-13-2025 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 17967195)
we will have a much different roster next year with all the expiring contracts. i don't know how that will affect our status next season.
what i do know is that we have an amazing GM and crew that will get us players that will keep us competitive. In Veach we trust.

We had the OL embarrass us in a SB. He fixed that Oline in one off season. He can do it again. Indeed in Veach we trust.

smithandrew051 02-13-2025 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17967204)
We had the OL embarrass us in a SB. He fixed that Oline in one off season. He can do it again. Indeed in Veach we trust.

I’m probably in the minority but I don’t think the OL is the disaster that some believe it is.

It was an awful awful game. No doubt.

Still though, Creed is as good as they get at center. Same with Thuney at left guard. In 6 of the 7 postseason games he’s played here, Taylor has been perfectly fine at RT.

Trey Smith will be replaced, likely with someone already on the roster. Maybe Kingsley, Wanya, or Nourzad. The other two are fine depth.

Really just leaves LT. Fix that and the whole OL looks night and day. Obviously, that’s easier said than done.

Womble 02-13-2025 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17967185)
Your response proves you have the reading comprehension and temperament of a juvenile.

My reading comprehension is fine.

I don't even need the added context of you being prone to massive overreactions in the past to come to this conclusion. I believe what my eyes tell me.

Indian Chief 02-13-2025 08:59 AM

There are simply too many shitty teams for the Chiefs to miss the playoffs, outside of some insane scenario.

SHOWTIME 02-13-2025 09:05 AM

The Pats did a reset after 2008 after guys like Bruschi, Vrabel, Rodney, and others just retired. It took NE a few years to really start to contend again and that began with their 2010 draft where they took Gronk and McCourtey. With that said I wouldn't give up on the current group of players like Kelce for at least another year. Like others have stated, sign a FA left tackle and put Kingsley or draft a guard to replace Trey Smith. It will make a big difference. Whether it's good enough to win another SB we'll find out but it's really the best/only option. A new LT from the draft will take time to develop.

Deberg_1990 02-13-2025 09:11 AM

Tank for a top 5 pick next year

Womble 02-13-2025 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17967230)
Tank for a top 5 pick next year

We already tried that by going into a season with Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney and MVS as our top 3 WRs. We ended up with pick 32.

chiefzilla1501 02-13-2025 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17967228)
The Pats did a reset after 2008 after guys like Bruschi, Vrabel, Rodney, and others just retired. It took NE a few years to really start to contend again and that began with their 2010 draft where they took Gronk and McCourtey. With that said I wouldn't give up on the current group of players like Kelce for at least another year. Like others have stated, sign a FA left tackle and put Kingsley or draft a guard to replace Trey Smith. It will make a big difference. Whether it's good enough to win another SB we'll find out but it's really the best/only option. A new LT from the draft will take time to develop.

This. New England did this frequently. We also did it a few years ago when we unloaded mathieu, hitchens, tyreek etc… we happened to win a Super Bowl. I don’t think this rebuild will be as easy as the last, but it can be quick and painless. Don’t be afraid to trade our picks. Try to lose just enough players to get comp picks.

It’s always painful to say but I think we need to lose some guys on defense and reinvest in the offense. Our overall team is rebuilding but we need to also use next year to start rebuilding mahomes too

HemiEd 02-13-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17967183)
I don’t think the quality of draft picks the last two years is an issue so much as the quantity.

The little moves for late round picks really add up over time. Eventually, we’ll need to part with an ascending player for picks.

I 100% understand going in for the 3-peat. Now that it’s off the table, play the long game. The window is open as long as 15 is under center.

You mean like Tyreek Hill and Sneed?


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