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Coochie liquor 04-22-2025 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 18037663)
No, the Eagles are. Veach is a good GM, but Howie is better.
Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.

SHOWTIME 04-22-2025 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 18037790)
Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.
True, but Howie has done exceptionally well in the later rounds.

2020 - Hurts (2nd)

2021 - Landon Dickerson (2nd), Milton Williams (3rd)

2022 - Cam Jurgens (2nd), Nakobe Dean (3rd)

2024 - Cooper Dejean (2nd), Jalyx Hunt (3rd)

And look at the 2023 draft, we went with FAU, while Sam Laporta went a few picks later to Detroit. Laporta would be the perfect replacement for Travis. Or Veach could have gotten a little agressive and traded up in the first round a few picks to get Nolan Smith before the Eagles did.

Shields68 04-22-2025 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 18037790)
Howie has had the opportunity to draft earlier than KC 3 of the 5 years. He also has an owner who sold 5% of the team to float the capital to push contracts down the road, which Clark doesn’t seem very keen on. If you factor in draft position, it would be difficult to put Howie on top. They basically just had a draft as close to KCs 2022 draft, for the same reason. We traded Reek and got a haul, they traded Wentz and got a haul. Also add in that teams have been reluctant to trade in the draft with KC, and not really with the Eagles yet.

Veach drives me crazy on certain things, but he’s had a harder hand the last 5 years than Roseman.
Howie has done better in FA's. Barkley, Baun, Becton were all great signings at an extreme bargain. But they have have also drafted guys that I was surprised fell that far. Like jalen Carter, Dejean.

Jewish Rabbi 04-22-2025 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 18037576)
We had an incredible core of players that were HOF stars before Veach took control. And yes, Veach is given a huge credit pushing for Mahomes under Dorsey.

Tyreek Hill

Travis Kelce

Chris Jones

Patrick Mahomes


What Veach has done well in going to 5 SB's has been getting on base and doubles over and over and over.


Maybe Creed is also a HOF drafted but mostly just very good players that fit what we do like

Bolton

Sneed

IPac, etc


With the old star core other than Mahomes aging out we need a few more super stars drafted over the next 3-4 years if we want to maintain dominance.
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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 18037804)
True, but Howie has done exceptionally well in the later rounds.

2020 - Hurts (2nd)

2021 - Landon Dickerson (2nd), Milton Williams (3rd)

2022 - Cam Jurgens (2nd), Nakobe Dean (3rd)

2024 - Cooper Dejean (2nd), Jalyx Hunt (3rd)

And look at the 2023 draft, we went with FAU, while Sam Laporta went a few picks later to Detroit. Laporta would be the perfect replacement for Travis. Or Veach could have gotten a little agressive and traded up in the first round a few picks to get Nolan Smith before the Eagles did.
Hope you both get sodomized by a horse

Rainbarrel 04-22-2025 05:28 PM
Yes, a recent ranking by Nick Baumgardner of The Athletic places the Kansas City Chiefs second only to the Detroit Lions in terms of drafting over the past five years. According to Yardbarker, the Chiefs have successfully built their dynasty through effective drafting, identifying talent, and creating a winning culture. The New York Times reports that the Chiefs consistently make the most of their picks, especially given the number of players they've drafted and the number of Pro Bowl players they've produced.

tredadda 04-22-2025 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 18037819)
Yes, a recent ranking by Nick Baumgardner of The Athletic places the Kansas City Chiefs second only to the Detroit Lions in terms of drafting over the past five years. According to Yardbarker, the Chiefs have successfully built their dynasty through effective drafting, identifying talent, and creating a winning culture. The New York Times reports that the Chiefs consistently make the most of their picks, especially given the number of players they've drafted and the number of Pro Bowl players they've produced.
This post makes sense. Did someone hijack your account?

Deberg_1990 04-22-2025 07:15 PM
The Chiefs have drafted remarkably well considering where they draft every year.

Coochie liquor 04-23-2025 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 18037912)
The Chiefs have drafted remarkably well considering where they draft every year.
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 18037898)
This post makes sense. Did someone hijack your account?
Again!!


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