Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18059105)

I'm not tagging a WR these days.

Franchise figure when he's a FA is likely to be in excess of $25 million. Could be nearer $27 at the rate the market is headed.

I'd rather deal him off the tag than play him on it.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 18059108)

If he blows it out the next 2 years, something along the lines of 3500 yards and 20 odd touchdowns, I'd think you would approach the tag and trade option pretty well.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18059079)

Yeah -- this doesn't seem that hard.

If he plays the the level he WAS playing at last season, it could complicate things a little bit as it really would put him at an 'elite WR' tier in terms of expected pay but I still see him as a very good WR rather than an elite one.

But man, at some point we're gonna wanna pay SOMEBODY in the WR room as a throughput. And at that point he'll have a pretty solid baseline established. Probably best to just find an extension for him.

If not...aight. Play him out on the 4th year then tag/trade him.

He'd have pretty strong value.

He's a lot like Karlaftis in that he plays a valuable position at a really high level but doesn't have a broad set of explosive tools. That's gonna make him a guy who WILL get paid near the top of the market but perhaps shouldn't. So you see what you can manage, what he's willing to accept and if it's not enough, you move along.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18058269)

Assumptions:

-The Chiefs pay Trey, McDuffie and Karlaftis big contracts as Veach has noted

-Rice continues where he left off and has a great season that is 1,200 yards and 10 TD’s as a baseline. Also factoring in a small suspension just to be conservative with the projection.

-He’s clearly a top 10 WR like he was becoming last year. He’s now eligible to get paid and wants an extension of at least $30 million APY which would make him a top 5 WR. He thinks this bc his numbers reflect that of a top 5 WR.

-Worthy continues being awesome. Royals, while not Rashee, looks promising. Not a WR1, but a solid WR2 or WR3.

-Chiefs draft a WR prospect every year in the first 4 rds regardless of what they with Rice

What are you doing if you are Veach? The way I see it we have 4 options:

1. Trade him, either this time next year or after year 4 when you place the franchise tag on him. Value would likely be a mid 2nd rd pick value IMO. Maybe a 2nd + a day 3 pick.
2. Let him finish his 4 years and let him walk for a 3rd rd comp pick the following year
3. Let him finish his 4 year deal, franchise tag him for a year, then let him walk for a 3rd rd comp pick the following year
4. Pay him his contract and trade him after 2 years into the contract in 2028 for a day 3 pick (like we just did with Joe Thuney) and we save money on the cap.

What are you doing if you’re Brett Veach?

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18059162)

He will leave us with no choice but to pay him. I think he's catching 100 passes this year.

There will be a lot of guys coming off the books; Kelce, Smith, Taylor and Tranquill will save a ton, and the cap will likely skyrocket again. If Simmons and Kingsley play well on the left side, there's no way they'll resign Smith, they can fill that spot with Nourzad or Morris and be fine and cheap as hell.

This team is going to be electric this year, I can't wait.

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 18058534)

Need more information.

What are we getting from Worthy? What are we getting from Royals? Who is playing TE and how much are they contributing?

If one year from now we have Rice and nothing else then you probably have to pay him. If Worthy is also putting up 1200/ 10 and Royals is a big contributor and Wiley (or some other TE) is putting up big numbers then you probably trade Rice.