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Brando 09-17-2004 10:14 AM

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It's cheaper than buying a beer.
That it is! Now it's just a matter of convincing the cheerleaders to drink directly from the bottle. :thumb:

Mark M 09-17-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Waaaahhhhhhhzarus
oh fuck you, rahtard.


the fact that we had cap room, had profit margin and still said we didn't have the money to add free agents this year is proof enough for me.



if Lamar Hunt we so concerned about ticket prices then why did he let them get that high in the first place?

**** yourself, crybaby. :deevee: And get over yourself as well.

Did you ever stop to think that there is a reason they didn't make those moves?

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Lamar has shelled out over $50 million in bonuses the past few years (Priest, Trent, Tony, Barber, Holliday, Hall, Maz, Hicks, McCleon and others have been signed or re-signed).

Maybe it has to do with them not being "profile" guys, as DV puts it.

Maybe it's because the Chiefs have been burned by bad FA moves in the past and didn't see the need to add any more high-priced FAs.

The fact is, no one knows why. But for you and others to call Lamar "cheap" is ludicrous. The reason ticket prices went up is because the Chiefs need more revenue. It's just that simple. There simply aren't enough ways at the stadium to make money (i.e. more luxury boxes, concessions, etc.), so they have to find ways to generate more money, and the best way is through ticket sales. If you don't like the price of tickets, then don't buy them.

No matter what you or others say, running an NFL team is BUSINESS. The point of ANY BUSINESS is to make money. Operating in the red is just plain stupid. Sure, it'd be nice to spend hundreds of millions on signing bonues ... after all, that's worked so well for Dan Snyder, hasn't it?

What's even funnier is that, if KC did sign these players and they didn't work out, everyone would be saying how Carl shouldn't have signed them, that they are busts and how much of a waste of cap room the players are.

It's a lose/lose proposition with you and others, and your hatred of all things Carl and Co. prevent some of you from using rational, logical thought. Either that, or you really might wanna mix in some decaf.

MM
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beavis 09-19-2004 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
You do not KNOW they have cap room.

Very true. But when I look at teams like the Redskins who go out and sign whoever they damn well please, (and I am in no way saying we should be taking personel advice from Snyder) it really makes me wonder why we can't sign the big name free agents.

Logical 09-19-2004 10:46 PM

Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

stanleychief 09-20-2004 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner.

Put a winning team on the field and nobody whines about $6 beers, $25 parking, $60 nosebleed seats. Play like we did on Sunday and nobody will pay for any of it. If Lamar hopes to get this tax passed by November, he better shake things up and get this team turned around proto. I think right now a lot of people feel 'duped' into believing the Chiefs would do something this year, and that doesn't settle well with them to see them do nothing in the offseason.

htismaqe 09-20-2004 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav
Winning would do more to help pass this sales tax than any explanation. Get some talent and the rest would probably take care of itself. The way the Royals and Chiefs approach winning they probably do not deserve the investment or the public's trust.

I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree.

htismaqe 09-20-2004 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis
Very true. But when I look at teams like the Redskins who go out and sign whoever they damn well please, (and I am in no way saying we should be taking personel advice from Snyder) it really makes me wonder why we can't sign the big name free agents.

You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

The Chiefs need to sign somebody like McCardell to give the fans some confidence. Pass bi-state2, build some skyboxes, and start using that money to build a real team.

BigRedChief 09-20-2004 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

teedubya 09-20-2004 07:26 AM

heh...looks like pretty poor timing to ask us for more cash... no way in hell if we are way under .500 that this town votes to give the Chiefs more ca$h.

BigChiefFan 09-20-2004 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
You do realize the differences between Arrowhead and FedEx, right? Daniel Snyder can pay for players with REVENUE, whereas Lamar has to take money out of his pocket.

The Chiefs need to sign somebody like McCardell to give the fans some confidence. Pass bi-state2, build some skyboxes, and start using that money to build a real team.

I understand your point, but those that actually have to foot the bill should give this some consideration. I'm all for making Arrowhead a nicer facility, but that is dependent on the Chiefs making some moves to put this team over the top. It's give and take and right now I'm upset with the Chiefs FO for doing more of the taking and not enough giving.

wolfpack0735 09-20-2004 08:42 AM

i dont lve in the area that willbe paying for the sales tax but when i come to kc,which is alot, i willbe paying for it. part of me thinks its a great idea but a part of me thinks ifhunt dosent want to spend the money to upgrade the team like it should why bother?

htismaqe 09-20-2004 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I disagree here. Lamar by his own admission in the article says he made 24 mil profit. Why do you think money is coming out of his pocket? Is it going to cut into his profit yes but he still won't be paying any money out of pocket.

I believe Daniel Snyder made a clean $115M in profit. There's no comparison.

Imon Yourside 09-20-2004 10:27 AM

that fact that our ticket prices are middle of the road is flawed, listening to 810 yesterday they stated our ticket prices are 3rd HIGHEST around the NFL!! Simply because they are factoring in that the prices include everyone elses luxury boxes...nice

htismaqe 09-20-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN
that fact that our ticket prices are middle of the road is flawed, listening to 810 yesterday they stated our ticket prices are 3rd HIGHEST around the NFL!! Simply because they are factoring in that the prices include everyone elses luxury boxes...nice

I think you need to read the article again.

Lamar said our ticket prices NEED to be middle-of-the-road...

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In addition to the Chiefs profitability and value, ticket prices may also be an issue with people, Hunt said in an interview Wednesday. The team's average ticket price of $67.26 ranks third in the National Football League, according to a survey released last week in Team Marketing Report, a Chicago research publication.

Hunt said: “We need to step back and think about the Chiefs coming to the middle of the range in ticket price.'' Hunt said he wrote a memo to that effect this week to Carl Peterson, Chiefs general manager.

BigChiefFan 09-20-2004 01:18 PM

I seriously doubt that the Chiefs are going to lower the price of tickets.


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