Whats sad is......I have a bad feeling Gunther is gonna be mad a scapegoat when the season is over. Carl and DV figured that they couldnt go wrong with bringing him in. If he worked wonders and turned the D around they look brilliant for hiring him back. If the D collapses and doesnt change then they can blame it all on him instead of themselves for their own bad decisions in the draft and free agency...

I think Whitlock wrote a column about this a few months back..?

Probably not and as I said during the offseason along with replacing Grob they needed to replace the defensive talent as well. All you had to do was to look back at the 2000 Rams when they replaced all of their defensive staff, some which are with the Chiefs now, and they started 7 new defensive starters and they went to the Super Bowl in large part to their new D. This isn't rocket science yet CP and DV seem clueless.

Yep..good example...that 2000 Rams defense was horrible! But they didnt stand pat and bring back the same damn players!! They fired all the deadwewight including coaches and players! brought in some fresh blood...But No..we couldnt do that....because that would mean that Carl and DV were wrong about Morton, Sims, McCleon, Bartee, Hicks, Barber etc.....

But would anybody believe CP and DV if they tried that? Most fans and players aren't that stupid.

deprogramming three years of Robinson's schemes doesn't happen overnight.

I agree though, if some of the players aren't getting it done on the field, bench their azzes, maybe that will get the point through...




or they could try shock therapy...

And the funny part is that some of their coaches, Peter Guinta and Carl Hairston, are now part of our staff. I hate Martz as a coach but hell he even saw that these coaches suck.

What bothers me is when Gun says they practiced the exact same plays that Carolina scored on all week long and yet they still couldn't stop them. That is pathetic.

Somewhere, GROB is laughing his ass off right now.

I don't believe Gunn will be made at DV at all!! DV went to Gunn to ask for help, I believe Gunn knew what he was coming into!

Sims needs to loose some weight HUGE time! Not going to ramble.......It is only game 2 and The CHIEFS have what it takes to make it............Do you all rememeber the schedule they are playing this year????? Not like last year. Look at what Warfield is doing and did today! Others that played under Gunn know the system, give them time...

FOOOOOOOO CHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead:

yep, now granted..im sure DV would defend them and say..they were party of my Super Bowl staff....but that 1999 Rams D wasnt really that great either....that team had a super easy schedule that year that benifited them greatly......thier division the NFC West was horrible that year.....

The talent isn't there on the DLINE at all, we have no pass rusher. Eric Hicks is the softest guy out there. The corners aren't too bad but we never got any pressure and when we did it was too late. The LB's are horrible. I just hope we can manage to get better, but next year which may be our last year, things need to be changed with our talent on defense and WR. I am sick of seeing priests games go to waste.

Yep that's why last year was the year. Very easy schedule just like the 99 Rams. We wasted it with a shitty ass D. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

that's what I mean by 'deprogramming.' these players heads are full of knobinson's shit that's been pounded into them over the last few years, when they get into the heat of battle, they revert.

It'll take time, but the D will improve.

with that being said, the rooks should get more PT.




Donut Dalton is untainted by G-Rob... ;)

We were next to last in rushing defense after week one. We gave up 202 yards to the Broncos. Only the Bengals gave up more, to the Jets, with 219 last week. Since the Bengals play the fish tonight, I think it is safe to say we will be last in rushing defense after week #2.

So much for "taking away thier heart".

"Deprogramming" huh? is that the latest spin over at the Peterson household?

This isn't learning/unlearning scheme, or technique, or attitude. This is lacking the basic skill set that allows you to get to the ball.

Grob didn't "program" them to tackle poorly or over-commit on misdirection. He didn't "program" them to repeat the same mistakes on identical plays after a week's worth of practicing it.