So ****ing what?

They're adding at least one corner this year and believe it or not, there will be a FA period and another draft again. Yep, it happens annually believe it or not.

They will have more than one for 2019, before 2019 and they will.add more in 2019. Step back from the ledge.

They need to add 3 corners in this draft

2 need to have starting ability

Well ok, keep ****ing that chicken.

More like they need a starting LG worth a **** because the season will mean nothing if Witz misses a block that injures Mahomes or Fisher injures his pussy and they're stuck playing a shitty back up at LT.

here's the punch in the gut scenario: Veach maybe contemplating trading Tyreek.

If you're attempting to figure how to maintain the draft capital, with the current value of the Chiefs players.

It would suck, but one could argue that KC has enough talent to succeed in Offense to trade for an upgrade for the Defense.

I can't imagine ****ing a chicken

Loon here...we got a loon here

Then making it into a nice shake and bake infused dinner. Thread time!

I disagree. I think they need to draft a top corner early and possibly another in the 4th round or later to develop.

I've gone to a party at a frat house before where they looked up exactly that.

The male actor seemed to please himself with the chicken fairly easily.

To veer back to the draft. I'd rather give up more points and big plays if it meant keeping Pat upright for 17 Weeks and off IR.

Seems like building around him should be the actual priority.

:hmmm: WTF?

It's a stupid narrative. Hostin might be mad his friend is gone, but Peters had a HUGE negative effect on Houston's production. No longing pressing receivers b/c Peters refused to hurt Houston's numbers.

Never changes, the IMMENSE importance of the guard position here on CP.

****ers like you aren't going to know what to do when you have a QB that doesn't need a perfect line to almost succeed.

Soo...maybe I am out of the loop, but where has this been said by any credible source? I just don't understand how that makes any sense at all.

LMAO

This is being ****ing reeruned. Good god.

Yep

I almost deleted this post for you but it was so idiotic ifigured you deserved to have to live with it forever

This is way more interesting than the Chiefs plan in the draft. What in the actual ****?

How else do you expect Veach to pay compensation without being fleeced, and maintain picks?

He shall whisper in your ear.

So you think Veach should go with lower rated corners on his board who, like Steven Nelson and Phillip Gaines, will probably barely play this year if at all leaving the CB core a complete tire fire?

This OL is going to look VASTLY improved.

1) Mahomes avoids pressure while keeping his eyes down field. That alone is going to be a huge difference maker in how the OL is viewed.

2) Mahomes is going to kill teams that blitz him. His release and vision are both top notch. The less teams can blitz, the easier the OLs job is.


Now, I’d definitely move up for the right guy on the OL and I agree that protecting the franchise by building a monster line in front of him is a wise investment. Especially with Morse being a FA after this year...but getting 2 starting quality corners is mandatory.

It’s gonna take teams 10-12 games to catch up to what Mahomes is doing on offense. I think he runs wild till that point. The hype machine on the kid will be in full swing.

Opposing teams are going to be throwing the ball A TON.

Let’s say we come out of the draft with Oliver AND Hughes while keeping all of our original picks next year along with a 3rd, 4th and 3 later picks this year for other positions?

Then we use the other third on a safety to play next to Berry.

Or a guard

First, trading Tyreek is not what Veach is thinking. Delete your profile.

Secondly, I’m all for going up for a corner but not giving up too much. Lots of holes to fill. Plus, this is the year I think we see some UDFAs make the squad and play. There’s finally room for that. Hopefully they can nail one or two of those.

Third, Veach is aggressive. But I like the idea of having a 1, 2 2s and 3 to start the draft next season with no 4th round pick due to the Ragland trade.

I’d stay at 54 if you can’t go up for a corner. We need safeties badly and EB isn’t getting younger. Need to start adding some impact safeties that are worth a ****.

My plan is to let things shake out and if a good corner gets within 10 or so slots, yeah go ahead and move up. Don't continuously rob from tomorrow for today is the general theme. They do have more needs than just corner.

I like aggressive,.but there comes a point where you just gotta stick with the board because the team isn't that complete.

While I appreciated the free Rolling Rock, attending parties at that house wasn't high on my to do list after that.

That's, an answer , but to trade up and knowingly so you have to give up alot and if someone rips another for stating an opinion which involves a difficult decision you better have a solution yourself.

Just checked in to page 7, and one of the first things I see is you saying Veach might be contemplating trading Hill?

Whatever you're smoking, lay off that shit bruv...

As I said it's going to cost us, the Chiefs will have to live with difficult decisions if they want trade into the 1st

How is trading the pick we got from Marcus Peters “robbing from next year?”

There’s absolutely no chance they trade Hill.

It’s silly to even suggest.

3 is overkill, 2 is fine with one penciled in package starter IMO

Its true, this isnt just another CP dumbass 'lets draft a fatty yay O line' drumbeat... everyone from you and me, to national writers knows that LG has been a black hole for freaking years

If there is a chance to lock that spot down for 10 years as one of St Pats 'Unsullied' bodyguards, you take it... Veach has already proven that he intends to load this offense, so dont be surprised about LG

I feel like a nice guy this evening, no insults forthcoming... but there should be

What's your solution?

Using a combination of the pick from Peters and either this years 2 or 3.

Either combination would get us into the late first early second.

Yep.

While Mahomes will possibly make the OL look better than Alex did, no way anyone can deny they've never figured out the LG position and Witz is not the answer at all.

I don't think they gotta shift up in the draft to fill it, but hard to fill that need if they trade off half of the picks and spend it all on corners.

Moving up a but to land a starting corner and nabbing a 2nd one somewhere Day 3 is definitely realistic.

When they are trading off a future choice to fall back under the standard pick count threshold, what else would you call it?

Losing the actual net gain from the Peters trade to move up for his replacement would net them a 6th for 4th swap for an All-pro corner.

That would be like pissing on an electric fence because Frank said you were a pussy and wouldn't do it. You did it and by golly did it hurt, so your solution for burning dick is to numb it up some by sticking it in the waffle iron. Sure it goes numb and the pain subsides and Frank thinks you're cool as ****, but now your dick looks like a mangled burnt breadstick.

you know Dan well the Chiefs will have to over pay especially if it's out in the open.

This won't be a friendly deal on KC's end

If KC is giving up the kind of capital it takes to get to 33-37, they'll likely do what it takes to get to 32 or above. That 5th year option is too valuable.

Teams always overpay to move up. But to suggest that he's contemplating trading Tyreek is ridiculous. It's the man's first draft year, I'm sure he wants to stick around for a few more years. Trading Tyreek guarantees he's one and done.

Not only that, this is exactly how shills like Athan get absurd story lines published. I wouldn't be surprised if he writes about how he's "hearing rumors Veach wants to trade Tyreek, per an unnamed source".

Trade next years second or third, trade Clarks mom... trade anything but your proven All-Pro gamebreaker on his rookie contract for cripe pete!!!!!!

Some aren't living in the real world concerning that making a very public trade will be expensive.

I'm shelling out nightmare scenarios, but people are acting like 3 year olds not understanding that the other team is out to **** us over too.

the trade chart is BS, when other teams are inflating the price because of a bidding war for player(s)

You do realize Philly doesn’t have a 2nd or 3rd round picks?

You do realize that doesn't matter, they just won the SB as it stands

I dont think so

Trading hill isn't ****ing real world

And KC isn’t trading Tyreek Hill. That’s the dumbest ****ing thing anyone has said on this forum. Stop

A player who made most of the players around him less effective. He forced the defense to play to his strengths, not the strengths of the defense as a whole.

Exactly we stay as is, the Chiefs will **** themselves with the comp

Losing Peters is a sunk cost.

If we aren’t going to have him this year using the picks we got from him to help this years team isn’t stealing from the future. It’s utilizung currency as it’s earned.

veach has shown a willingness to trade insanely talented but troubled young, cost-controlled players for relatively meager returns.

Dude come on

He should punch himself in the nuts for even suggesting it

Doubling down on stupid isn't how you build a quality, long term team.

I know we're all high on Mahomes here, but I don't feel strongly about a first year starting QB taking us to the Super Bowl just quite yet. Don't feel it's completely necessary to go aggressive in that fashion today.

They will have other things to address coming up.

Unless Dee Ford really turns it around this year and they feel good about giving him a long-term deal, they're going to have a massive hole at edge rusher going into 2019.

Morse will be a FA, so they will also need a Center if they don't elect to keep him in house. Allen Bailey will be a FA too and I can't see him getting a 3rd contract.

Next year is shaping up to be a great class for DL and edge-rushers, so I'd rather keep the high choices we have now.

Unrealistic.

May not be Super Bowl push in 18 per say but you wanna push in 19,20,21

Get as many of the guys you think will be in their prime during that windowhere This year if you can and let them build together

Why in the holy every-lovin bleepty bleep would Veach trade Hill?

He's young,improving with not a single ounce of trouble since joining the team. He seems to be a fine locker room guy and hasn't shown any inclination in wanting to live anywhere else. He was born in Florida but went to 2 colleges that are nearby in Garden City and Oklahoma State.

The Chiefs already have a QB so what player in this draft would be worth trading Hill for? I wouldn't trade Hill for the best cornerback in this draft Denzel Ward. A trade for the consensus best player is Saquon Barkley and that doesn't even make considering we already have Hunt.

If Veach would have held onto Peters for a while longer, we might have been able to get a good deal by using him to trade up but not Hill.

Put the Glunt down and go to sleep. :shake:

Jeremiah on his mock draft live special tonight had a bold prediction of KC trading back into round one for a corner

I'd **** a chicken. Cloacas are tight as hell, my man

Sutton had this defense at 15th in the league in points given up and no more than 21 points given up at home minus one Marriotta fluke TD to himself.

That was with Zombo, Sorenson, Kevin Pierre Louis, Terrance Mitchell and the walking corpses of DJ and Tamba.

I am confident that if we provide Sutton with a competent starting corner to add to the FA additions, we can be around 10th in points allowed again.

Add that to an explosive offense and you have a chance.

* Need two safeties that can tackle and be respectable in coverage
* Need another true 5 tech that can rotate in with Bailey/Jones with little drop-off inproduction
* Need a cover/spy linebacker to fill the KPL role and hopefully be more competent at it
* Need the rotational interior DL to be sound in the run game
* Need edge pass rush insurance in the speed variety. KPass is not that with the plan to move him inside situationally. Ford/Nicolas need to earn their snaps by showing some durability. If Zombo plays any defensive snaps, this defense is in trouble.

We’ll have a UFDA make the team at CB. Get 2 in the draft and that’s 3.

Two quality starters opposite Fuller before camp?

Unrealistic.

who were at Best Buy ??:D

There will be a major purge of veteran corners after the draft and they could fill that final role with a cut.

exactly

Especially corners

2 guys with starting potential.

Key word potential.

Guys that can be better than Nelson and Amerson. Soon, if not immediately.

This team needs 3-4 corners that can cover and take the ball away.

Allow the backers and safeties to attack

They aren’t going that route unless they completely whiff in the draft.

These guys are going to play all the kids and coach them up.

To fill that final roster spot, I don't see why not. Settle down, Beavis.

Listen to Veaches media comments about it.

They are going to learn on the fly with young players, not vets.

That doesn't mean literally no veterans at all dude. LMAO

I would bet on DRC as a post draft signing more than I would on some bizarro draft board grenade fantasy to have 3 rookies at Corner. Breeland is far from old and will be a steal pick up once the aids in his foot clears up.

Carlton Davis all the way!

I'm thinkin lobotomy.

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- I believe Sorenson gets cut post June 1, thus the safety additions.
- Jenkins anecdote RNR aren’t true 5 techs.
- Ogbo is 6’1/240’s for weight - he’s not exactly a 3-4 edge setting prototype. Holland disappears way too often for my liking. He has some tools, but is inconsistent. If Chiefs go Edge early I like Carter, and Turay if we want a project in mid-later rounds.

Disagree. Trade values were pretty fair last year. With the additional freedom to trade centre more willingness to do so.

It's also devaluing that currency though as next years second is only worth a third this year.

Not to mention camp casualties.

The Marcus Peters trade is a good template. If the Chiefs are desperate they'll forgo a fair market trade.

I truly thought the Chiefs would get a 1st round pick out the Rans trade

? The Peters trade doesn't count. If they had any leverage to play hardball, they'd have gotten soothing for him.

The Chiefs were getting rid of him. Not interested in keeping him. The entire league knew it. We held zero cards beings we wanted to move him early before the draft. It's really too bad most of the league was scared of him.

If they wanted to hold onto him for a trade during the draft, or even after to a team who didn't get the CB help they were looking for in the draft, they couldn't had more.

They were moving on in a hurry. They got what they could.

If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.

You don’t have the biggest brain, or the best brain.

The trade value chart has held up for a long time. It may not be followed exactly but it's a good benchmark to start from. Adding Golden moves Sorenson back to part-time doing what he did 2 years ago quite well. Moving up and getting a "compete for starter" CB would help the secondary immensely. They got rid of a lot of trash and have picked up replacements that look to be better on paper. Fuller, Amerson, Golden, Williams, Hitchens. Ford, Berry healthy. Ragland, Houston, Jones. There's 10 of 11 starters. Adding 2-3 bodies able to push for starting time and depth is needed but just adding 1 CB and I would like this group quite a bit over last year's.

I think wanting to trade up and being desperate are not the same thing. I honestly wouldn't mind Parry Nickerson or Nick Nelson in the 3rd or 4th, if one of the more polished cornerbacks either isn't available at 54 or a reasonable trade up can't be achieved.

This.

That second round pick will be worth a lot more next year than it will this year. Best to hold onto till next year. If they want to package it in a trade then, so be it.