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Sweet Daddy Hate 12-11-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13277282)
fo sheezy my jive cult homie!

represent!

Mahomies sweepin' the Alex trash out da' door!

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jdubya 12-11-2017 07:35 PM

Carr simply needs a real OC. Last year, statistically, he was a top 5-10 QB. This year he is lost....last year Musgrave was his OC, this year it is a promoted QB coach that is Carrs "buddy".....Raiders offense is about as complicated as a junior high school football team. Zero play action, no misdirection plays whatsover....

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:18 PM

4 yards in the 1st. Still sucks.

thegame214 12-17-2017 08:19 PM

He got paid like Brady and plays like Bortles

O.city 12-17-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13292952)
4 yards in the 1st. Still sucks.

I thought he was a bit overrated last year but damn, something has happened behind the scenes to get this bad.

They’re ****ing awful

Why Not? 12-17-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13292960)
He got paid like Brady and plays like Bortles

Raiders wish he played as well as Bortles lately

O.city 12-17-2017 08:22 PM

Staylor I dunno if you ever listen to John middlekauf podcast but he’s a Bay Area dude that was a scout for andy in Philly for a while.

Anyway he talks about how Derek basically pushed them to put Downing as the kc because he was a buddy and get rid of the last year dude

Reerun_KC 12-17-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13292952)
4 yards in the 1st. Still sucks.


Seen that before.

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13292973)
Staylor I dunno if you ever listen to John middlekauf podcast but he’s a Bay Area dude that was a scout for andy in Philly for a while.

Anyway he talks about how Derek basically pushed them to put Downing as the kc because he was a buddy and get rid of the last year dude

I’ve heard that before elsewhere and I believe it, but I also don’t buy it being yhe reasoning for his regression. I think he’s just a cuck when he feels pressure like Alex. He just has a bigger arm and isn’t as mobile.

Best22 12-17-2017 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13277207)
I mean according to smith fans, carr should be twice as good as smith Right?

He makes twice the money and bangs 10 times the hot babes

Derek Carr probably only goes out with his wife

His idea of "date night" is probably Bible study

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13292967)
Raiders wish he played as well as Bortles lately

This. Bortles might actually turn out to be the best QB in that class. That passing game is rolling and they’re already without Robinson and just lost Lee.

Westbrook and Cole are fantastic rookies.

O.city 12-17-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13292983)
I’ve heard that before elsewhere and I believe it, but I also don’t buy it being yhe reasoning for his regression. I think he’s just a cuck when he feels pressure like Alex. He just has a bigger arm and isn’t as mobile.

Yeah but he hasn’t been pressure that much more this year than he was last year iirc. He just checks down and takes the short stuff constantly

They have no rhythm, it’s weird

O.city 12-17-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13292993)
This. Bortles might actually turn out to be the best QB in that class. That passing game is rolling and they’re already without Robinson and just lost Lee.

Westbrook and Cole are fantastic rookies.

I just can’t get back on the Bortles train. The d is legit tho

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13292998)
Yeah but he hasn’t been pressure that much more this year than he was last year iirc. He just checks down and takes the short stuff constantly

They have no rhythm, it’s weird

I think DC’s have probably fogured him out a bit, and that’s the reason why it’s really coming to light. Basically they’ve studied what we do to him.

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13293001)
I just can’t get back on the Bortles train. The d is legit tho

I don’t think he’s good enough to win the SB this year, but I think he’s shown enough progress to hold off on looking for another QB.

They’ve got a nice group of weapons and he’s playing better than he ever has. It’s worth seeing what he can do next year with a healthy Fournette, Robinson, and some improvements on the OL.

O.city 12-17-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13293018)
I don’t think he’s good enough to win the SB this year, but I think he’s shown enough progress to hold off on looking for another QB.

They’ve got a nice group of weapons and he’s playing better than he ever has. It’s worth seeing what he can do next year with a healthy Fournette, Robinson, and some improvements on the OL.

They’re gonna have to give him the 1 year deal or something.

I’d try and bring in Cousins or Eli

O.city 12-17-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13293010)
I think DC’s have probably fogured him out a bit, and that’s the reason why it’s really coming to light. Basically they’ve studied what we do to him.

Maybe but in year 4?

I mean if it were 2 I could see that but he just looks awful

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13293046)
Maybe but in year 4?

I mean if it were 2 I could see that but he just looks awful

Apparently you missed that article with a HC or DC this year talking about how they studied Sutton’s strategy against Carr. I’d imagine he wasn’t the only one that did that.

It’s still a a combination of things at the end of the day though. The OL has regressed over the years, along with Cooper. I just don’t ever see him living up to the hype with that contract and the one Mack’s about to get. He needs a much better team around him to succeed than people thought.

RunKC 12-17-2017 08:48 PM

Carr needs good coaching so badly. If Oakland is smart they’ll fire JDR and get a real offensive mind in there to help this kid.

Coaching makes all the difference in the world. Jared Goff is proof of that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-17-2017 08:49 PM

He was propped up by great skill position players and an elite OL. Now that neither are as good, he's been exposed as just another Carr.

Oakland is going to regret that contract for years.

O.city 12-17-2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13293088)
He was propped up by great skill position players and an elite OL. Now that neither are as good, he's been exposed as just another Carr.

Oakland is going to regret that contract for years.

So is it a mental thing, physical?

staylor26 12-17-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293078)
Carr needs good coaching so badly. If Oakland is smart they’ll fire JDR and get a real offensive mind in there to help this kid.

Coaching makes all the difference in the world. Jared Goff is proof of that.

Goff also has a lot of talent around him. Gurley is probably the best RB in the league, Watkins/Woods/Kupp are a nice trio of WR’s, and Whitworth along with he development of Havenstein has made their OL above average. Not to mention that defense.

I’m not sold on Goff either, but they can definitely win a SB with him on a rookie contract and the talent around him if he continues to develop.

Chiefs=Champions 12-17-2017 08:55 PM

If i remember correctly, as a rookie he had an incredibly low ypa. He's regressing to that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-17-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13293092)
So is it a mental thing, physical?

It's easy to play QB [Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton, Alex Smith] in this league when you have a combination of all day to throw, a good running game, good WRs, or all three. When those elements start to falter, mediocre QBs get exposed. Derek Carr is one of those. No good QB would *ever* struggle with the Chiefs D the way Carr has over several years given Oakland's skill position and OL talent.

staylor26 12-17-2017 10:45 PM

LMAO

Al Bundy 12-17-2017 10:46 PM

Jesus....

GayFrogs 12-17-2017 10:46 PM

lmao

Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 10:47 PM

Yeah. Loser. LMAO

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Why Not? 12-17-2017 10:47 PM

Bahaahah. What a dumbass.

notorious 12-17-2017 10:49 PM

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RunKC 12-17-2017 10:50 PM

Remember when Clay said the Chiefs were in trouble bc the Broncos and Raiders were further along in developing Carr and Semen? LMAO

staylor26 12-17-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293482)
Remember when Clay said the Chiefs were in trouble bc the Broncos and Raiders were further along in developing Carr and Semen? LMAO

LMAO

Sure do

Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293482)
Remember when Clay said the Chiefs were in trouble bc the Broncos and Raiders were further along in developing Carr and Semen? LMAO

Well...they still are. :shrug:

RINGLEADER 12-17-2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293482)
Remember when Clay said the Chiefs were in trouble bc the Broncos and Raiders were further along in developing Carr and Semen? LMAO

I don’t, but I do remember catching chit from Planeteers who thought I was nuts to say Derek Carr was below average. He is not a good QB.

wazu 12-17-2017 10:53 PM

Carr really took the team on his back and refused to win today. Breathtaking.

TLO 12-17-2017 10:54 PM

Mediocre QB

eDave 12-17-2017 10:54 PM

Beat by a piece of paper.

Iconic 12-17-2017 10:54 PM

Glad he's not a Chief. He has losing in his DNA.

Mahomes on the other hand though...

RunKC 12-17-2017 10:56 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClayW. (n...80540095565825

Clay I admit this made me laugh. It reminded me of Star Wars when the Rancor ate the Gamorrean guard

Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293503)
It reminded me of the Star Wars when the Rancor ate the Gamorrean guard

**** that's pretty good. We can be friends. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-17-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13293498)
Glad he's not a Chief. He has losing in his DNA.

Mahomes on the other hand though...

Yep.

Bwana 12-17-2017 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13293465)

LMAO The faiders are so ****ed with his new contract.

splatbass 12-17-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13293482)
Remember when Clay said the Chiefs were in trouble bc the Broncos and Raiders were further along in developing Carr and Semen? LMAO



Remember when Clay was right about something? Me either.


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Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 13293529)
Remember when Clay was right about something? Me either.

I was certainly right about this Chiefs season...mediocre as ****, as predicted.

carcosa 12-17-2017 11:16 PM

David > Derek

TEX 12-18-2017 06:43 AM

Carr certainly has taken a step backwards this season. The Raiders and Del ****up made a HUGE mistake when they / he let Mustgrave walk.

mcaj22 12-18-2017 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13293755)
Carr certainly has taken a step backwards this season. The Raiders and Del ****up made a HUGE mistake when they / he let Mustgrave walk.

they changed the entire offense on Carr cause of Del Rios ego

They will probably fire everyone and change the offense again next year. Carr will have three different coordinators in three years. I think they call that the Alex Smith.

rabblerouser 12-18-2017 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13275950)
He’s better than Dee Ford.

Derek Carr is certainly better for the Chiefs than Dee Ford...

Reerun_KC 12-18-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13293491)
Carr really took the team on his back and refused to win today. Breathtaking.



All to familiar

Reerun_KC 12-18-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13293755)
Carr certainly has taken a step backwards this season. The Raiders and Del ****up made a HUGE mistake when they / he let Mustgrave walk.



Yep. Coaching. 100% why he’s regressing.

rabblerouser 12-18-2017 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13293794)
Yep. Coaching. 100% why he’s regressing.

It's going to cost Del Rio his job, too.

Buehler445 12-18-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13293796)
It's going to cost Del Rio his job, too.

I hope that smug puke tries to fight Mark Davis and doesn’t get another ****ing cent.

redfan 12-18-2017 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13293465)

Is this that play?

Play by play:
0:39 4th - OAK 3rd & 8, at DAL 8
Derek Carr rushed to the right for 7 yard gain, tackled by Jeff Heath. Derek Carr fumbled. Oakland committed 15 yard penalty (Unsportsmanlike Conduct)

Reerun_KC 12-18-2017 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13293796)
It's going to cost Del Rio his job, too.



Good. He’s a jackass tool.

Carr is way to talented to be playing this shitty.

TEX 12-18-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13293796)
It's going to cost Del Rio his job, too.

NOOOOOOOOO! I'd give Del Rio a DECADE to work shit out! :D

Reerun_KC 12-18-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13293816)
NOOOOOOOOO! I'd give Del Rio a DECADE to work shit out! :D



I wouldn’t waste the talent on Del rio.

TEX 12-18-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13293819)
I wouldn’t waste the talent on Del rio.

Mine was wishful thinking. I'd LOVE for Del Rio to **** things up for the Raiders as long as possible.

PunkinDrublic 12-18-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13293546)
I was certainly right about this Chiefs season...mediocre as ****, as predicted.

Seasons not over you dumb as **** troll.

dj56dt58 12-18-2017 08:48 AM

Derek Carr does not suck..Oakland hasn't had a good year but you can't blame that all on a young qb. To put Mahomes over Carr before he plays a ****ing snap is just stupid

oldman 12-18-2017 08:51 AM

There aren't enough bad things that can happen to Jack "King of the Sucker Punch" Del Rio. I'm sickened to acknowledge he ever wore a Chiefs uniform.

Buehler445 12-18-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by redhed (Post 13293809)
Is this that play?

Play by play:
0:39 4th - OAK 3rd & 8, at DAL 8
Derek Carr rushed to the right for 7 yard gain, tackled by Jeff Heath. Derek Carr fumbled. Oakland committed 15 yard penalty (Unsportsmanlike Conduct)

That's the one.

They deserve that hog ****ing shit after the refs gifted them double digit tries inside the 2 in our game.

redfan 12-18-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13293878)
That's the one.

They deserve that hog ****ing shit after the refs gifted them double digit tries inside the 2 in our game.

So it ended up as a touchback and Dallas ball? Delicious

threebag 12-18-2017 09:37 AM

Clay should go gif shit for the Fade and his boy Carr. Other than a lack of criminal record he will fit right in with prison sex. Paint :o)us up with eyeliner... "bend over bitch"

Pasta Little Brioni 12-18-2017 09:39 AM

The clown crew loves Carr. They popped out of his ass like clown car magic.

threebag 12-18-2017 09:43 AM

LMAO

rabblerouser 12-18-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13293816)
NOOOOOOOOO! I'd give Del Rio a DECADE to work shit out! :D

Yup!

Make him Coach, GM, and Team President/CEO.

For LIFE!

Buehler445 12-18-2017 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redhed (Post 13293901)
So it ended up as a touchback and Dallas ball? Delicious

Yes. and Yes.

Here is how I feel about the Faid
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Eureka 12-18-2017 01:46 PM

The Raiders are in a much better situation with Carr then they where in the past! There are many teams that would love to have Carr as their franchise QB.

Mahomes could have the same exact play as Carr and everyone here would think he is great.

If he holds onto that ball last night he would've completed another 4th qtr comeback. He is a decent QB a team can build around.

TwistedChief 12-18-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13293878)
That's the one.

They deserve that hog ****ing shit after the refs gifted them double digit tries inside the 2 in our game.

Oooooh, I just went back and watched that entire drive. 4th and 10 and they pick up a 55yd PI call to get into FG range. And then Carr fumbles out of the end zone to end their dwindling playoff hopes. That was such an epic and soul-crushing loss. "Delicious" is the exact term for it. :)

Buehler445 12-18-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 13294579)
The Raiders are in a much better situation with Carr then they where in the past! There are many teams that would love to have Carr as their franchise QB.

Mahomes could have the same exact play as Carr and everyone here would think he is great.

If he holds onto that ball last night he would've completed another 4th qtr comeback. He is a decent QB a team can build around.

Yeah. I don’t get the hate. I mean, yeah. **** the Raiders. But he’s a decent QB. Sure he’s not Brady but Brady wasn’t either in the beginning.

Seriously though. **** the Raiders.

jdubya 12-18-2017 03:10 PM

Del Dummy and the new OC (Downing) are the culprits for Carrs and the Raiders offense downward slide. No misdirections, no play action, WR routes are less complicated than many high school football teams. Many of their route trees have WR's ending up right next to eachother. Guess who Carrs QB coach is this year.......he`s a former college walk on DB a few years ago that nobody knows.....and he is your $125 million dollar QB's coach? Carr has regressed horribly but I`ll not blame him so much as Del Dummy (who was given all staff powers). Let`s just see if Creeper Boy Mark Davis is smart enough to let DelDummy go even after extending him 4 years last year....

Buehler445 12-18-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 13294729)
Oooooh, I just went back and watched that entire drive. 4th and 10 and they pick up a 55yd PI call to get into FG range. And then Carr fumbles out of the end zone to end their dwindling playoff hopes. That was such an epic and soul-crushing loss. "Delicious" is the exact term for it. :)

You mean the longest penalty assessed this year? Yeah.

staylor26 12-18-2017 03:16 PM

It’s like some of aren’t aware that Carr was supposed to be the next big thing. A future elite QB.

He’s basically a Joe Flacco level QB, which on a Flacco contract, sucks.

Buehler445 12-18-2017 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13294760)
It’s like some of aren’t aware that Carr was supposed to be the next big thing. A future elite QB.

He’s basically a Joe Flacco level QB, which on a Flacco contract, sucks.

Oh hell. I forgot he got stupid money. Yeah. Woof.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-18-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13294765)
Oh hell. I forgot he got stupid money. Yeah. Woof.

Everyone behind that big ol' booty gets stupid money. Chiefs sure as **** paid their's too. But around these parts, it's referred to as "team friendly".

KChiefs1 12-18-2017 07:26 PM

Good thing we drafted Dee Ford instead.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-18-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13295336)
Good thing we drafted Dee Ford instead.

Maybe they can get together in the offseason and work on sucking ass even harder and with more finesse?...

rabblerouser 12-18-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13295336)
Good thing we drafted Dee Ford instead.

At least we aren't paying Carr top QB dollar to suck ass like Dee Ford..

KChiefs1 12-25-2017 08:01 PM

He looks awful tonight.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-25-2017 08:02 PM

Overpaid junk


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